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Except it's exhausting after 8 hrs (or more) in a job, 30-45m commute each leg, and some gym or other exercise (which can energize but steal hours from the day

Except it's exhausting after 8 hrs (or more) in a job, 30-45m commute each leg, and some gym or other exercise (which can energize but steal hours from the day to socialize). Going home and opening a beer is the popping of the pressure/people overdose cork. Commuting on a crowded subway is exhausting personally.

Balero 9y ago
Have you tried mixing your exercise and socialising? Do a team sport, or a class, run/swim in a group, or just go to the gym with a friend.
slfnflctd 9y ago
> Commuting on a crowded subway is exhausting personally Honestly I find all types of commuting exhausting in different ways, except possibly a medium-to-long trip on a nicer train, where I can use my laptop (mostly) how I would in a hotel room. It will probably never happen, but in my view the next major worker's rights advancement should be some kind of amelioration of the commute factor, either by employers or the government. It's probably more than half the reason I left my last job. I've always believed that making things 'feel more fair' tends to motivate at least some workers to put in extra effort more enthusiastically.
- amyjess 9y ago
  Honestly, I just want self-driving cars. Let me kick back and relax in a private vehicle where I don't have to do anything or interact with anyone.
  - slfnflctd 9y ago
    I wouldn't expect it any time soon (except on specially regulated roadways, which hopefully there will be a lot of), but I tend to agree that in the long run, full automation is the ultimate answer to the commuting issue. Safety first, though.
    - baby 9y ago
      remote working is another answer.
vorpalhex 9y ago
In general, stamina (social, mental and physical) is like a muscle. The more you train it, the better shape it gets in and the more work it can do before it's exhausted. Start with something small like reading a book in a coffee shop after work, or meeting a friend for dinner and a beer. Slowly do more over time. Just like you wouldn't go to a gym and deadlift 300lbs cold, you're not going to get off work and run a social club in your free time - but if you put in the consistent work, you can absolutely get there.
- badpun 9y ago
  > but if you put in the consistent work, you can absolutely get there. I'm guessing you're right - you _can_ do it (the same way people in medical residency can force themselves to work 80 hour workweeks), but will it ever feel pleasant and not like a chore? I can go out with friends in the evening after work, but I'll be a bit slow and groggy.
  - pc86 9y ago
    > I can go out with friends in the evening after work, but I'll be a bit slow and groggy. And this is why the weekends are typically much busier than weekday evenings at restaurants and other social locations.
  - vorpalhex 9y ago
    To continue using the gym metaphor - there's often times an initial hurdle, but once you're actually socializing and out there, you have a good time and you feel good afterwards.

Balero 9y ago

Have you tried mixing your exercise and socialising? Do a team sport, or a class, run/swim in a group, or just go to the gym with a friend.

slfnflctd 9y ago

> Commuting on a crowded subway is exhausting personally Honestly I find all types of commuting exhausting in different ways, except possibly a medium-to-long trip on a nicer train, where I can use my laptop (mostly) how I would in a hotel room. It will probably never happen, but in my view the next major worker's rights advancement should be some kind of amelioration of the commute factor, either by employers or the government. It's probably more than half the reason I left my last job. I've always believed that making things 'feel more fair' tends to motivate at least some workers to put in extra effort more enthusiastically.

amyjess 9y ago
Honestly, I just want self-driving cars. Let me kick back and relax in a private vehicle where I don't have to do anything or interact with anyone.
- slfnflctd 9y ago
  I wouldn't expect it any time soon (except on specially regulated roadways, which hopefully there will be a lot of), but I tend to agree that in the long run, full automation is the ultimate answer to the commuting issue. Safety first, though.
  - baby 9y ago
    remote working is another answer.

vorpalhex 9y ago

In general, stamina (social, mental and physical) is like a muscle. The more you train it, the better shape it gets in and the more work it can do before it's exhausted. Start with something small like reading a book in a coffee shop after work, or meeting a friend for dinner and a beer. Slowly do more over time. Just like you wouldn't go to a gym and deadlift 300lbs cold, you're not going to get off work and run a social club in your free time - but if you put in the consistent work, you can absolutely get there.

badpun 9y ago
> but if you put in the consistent work, you can absolutely get there. I'm guessing you're right - you _can_ do it (the same way people in medical residency can force themselves to work 80 hour workweeks), but will it ever feel pleasant and not like a chore? I can go out with friends in the evening after work, but I'll be a bit slow and groggy.
- pc86 9y ago
  > I can go out with friends in the evening after work, but I'll be a bit slow and groggy. And this is why the weekends are typically much busier than weekday evenings at restaurants and other social locations.
- vorpalhex 9y ago
  To continue using the gym metaphor - there's often times an initial hurdle, but once you're actually socializing and out there, you have a good time and you feel good afterwards.