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>Honestly, I don't think it would be a great loss to forgo most of the advertising funded content. Since you clearly haven't put much thought into this comment

>Honestly, I don't think it would be a great loss to forgo most of the advertising funded content. Since you clearly haven't put much thought into this comment let's just start listing things that are funded by ads - News - content creators on youtube - music - twitch - search - blogs - websites with tutorials - a thousand different things which I have missed and then facebook, snapchat, instagram, and twitter which of course you are too good for

paulific 8y ago
Well there are genuinely people out there who don't use the content. Our attitudes to media and who should be watching what haven't changed much from the broadcast era. "I'm not one Facebook" is the new "I don't watch TV.
- lajhsdfkl 8y ago
  I'm sure there are but that has nothing to do with my point. Anyway, I personally never use facebook because it is not something I find interesting. Do I feel pride in that fact? No I don't because I have an equally harmful relationship with reddit and hackernews. I always have to laugh when I see people state as a point of pride how they have deleted their facebook accounts on different social networks. If anything I think reddit and hackernews could be worse because I'm ingesting unfiltered opinions from random strangers.
wott 8y ago
- News Best TV and radio channels across the globe are government channels, funded by tax. - content creators on youtube & twitch 99,99% dispensable trash. - music Music funded by ads??? - search The only point that holds in your list. Could perfectly be funded by ISPs as part of our Internet subscription. - blogs & websites with tutorials No need for funding. Cost to setup is zero (provided by ISP) or close to zero (basic hosting or domain name registering).
- lajhsdfkl 8y ago
  >- content creators on youtube & twitch >99,99% dispensable trash. Yes, the thousands of tutorials/guides and content that people enjoy watching is trash. Everything that I don't find agreeable is trash. >No need for funding. Cost to setup is zero (provided by ISP) or close to zero (basic hosting or domain name registering). Yes, no need to give people money for work they do. Do you have any respect for the work that goes into the content you read and or watch every day? Or do you think people should just be content volunteering their effort for no reward? >The only point that holds in your list. Could perfectly be funded by ISPs as part of our Internet subscription. Yes. Perfectly. Let's just tack on another $50 a month. Or are you actually suggesting that ISPs should just do it out of their good will?
philwelch 8y ago
Most of those are covered by either subscription models or Patreon. Some of them (news, blogs, tutorials) can, like Wikipedia, be funded with non-profit models.
scarface74 8y ago
For tutorials, I pay $30 a month for a PluralSight subscription, $12-$20 for the occasional Udemy video and watch vendor supplied tutorials from Amazon and Microsoft. I hate ads for video content. I pay for Netflix and ad free Hulu. I use Plex for ad free content from CBS and the CW via by subscribing to the channels. It’s more ad blocking then piracy. Plex scrapes the content from the networks’ website real time and transcodes it and streams it. I pay for Apple Music and before that iTunes. I would pay for a high quality news source, I use to pay for WSJ.
- lajhsdfkl 8y ago
  > For tutorials, I pay $30 a month for a PluralSight subscription, $12-$20 for the occasional Udemy video and watch vendor supplied tutorials from Amazon and Microsoft Good for you that you can afford that. We all know the dream of the internet was information gated behind pay walls only accessible by the well off.
dnomad 8y ago
BTW, I agree, but I think the opposite is the case. I strongly suspect that in fact we'll see more content as the ad economy collapses. People don't understand just how much content is driven without ads for other reasons (like HN itself) and once more and more content gets locked behind subscription walls that indeed opens the door for free content to thrive. Combine this with strong, pervasive ad blocking and what you have is a recipe for the return of the free web.
tonyedgecombe 8y ago
Since you clearly haven't put much thought into this comment Sorry, did I say something to offend you?
AlexandrB 8y ago
> - content creators on youtube I only watch ad-free videos from content creators I fund on Patreon. I'm sick of Youtube's shitty advertising - it's as bad as TV when I was young, right down to running terrible political attack ads when I'm trying to take my mind off politics. > - music I don't think this is funded by ads. It's funded by VC dollars, since just about every streaming site is losing money right now. More to the point, my musical tastes are pretty eclectic so I usually have to buy Vinyl/CDs to get the music I want.

paulific 8y ago

Well there are genuinely people out there who don't use the content. Our attitudes to media and who should be watching what haven't changed much from the broadcast era. "I'm not one Facebook" is the new "I don't watch TV.

lajhsdfkl 8y ago
I'm sure there are but that has nothing to do with my point. Anyway, I personally never use facebook because it is not something I find interesting. Do I feel pride in that fact? No I don't because I have an equally harmful relationship with reddit and hackernews. I always have to laugh when I see people state as a point of pride how they have deleted their facebook accounts on different social networks. If anything I think reddit and hackernews could be worse because I'm ingesting unfiltered opinions from random strangers.

wott 8y ago

- News Best TV and radio channels across the globe are government channels, funded by tax. - content creators on youtube & twitch 99,99% dispensable trash. - music Music funded by ads??? - search The only point that holds in your list. Could perfectly be funded by ISPs as part of our Internet subscription. - blogs & websites with tutorials No need for funding. Cost to setup is zero (provided by ISP) or close to zero (basic hosting or domain name registering).

lajhsdfkl 8y ago
>- content creators on youtube & twitch >99,99% dispensable trash. Yes, the thousands of tutorials/guides and content that people enjoy watching is trash. Everything that I don't find agreeable is trash. >No need for funding. Cost to setup is zero (provided by ISP) or close to zero (basic hosting or domain name registering). Yes, no need to give people money for work they do. Do you have any respect for the work that goes into the content you read and or watch every day? Or do you think people should just be content volunteering their effort for no reward? >The only point that holds in your list. Could perfectly be funded by ISPs as part of our Internet subscription. Yes. Perfectly. Let's just tack on another $50 a month. Or are you actually suggesting that ISPs should just do it out of their good will?

philwelch 8y ago

Most of those are covered by either subscription models or Patreon. Some of them (news, blogs, tutorials) can, like Wikipedia, be funded with non-profit models.

scarface74 8y ago

For tutorials, I pay $30 a month for a PluralSight subscription, $12-$20 for the occasional Udemy video and watch vendor supplied tutorials from Amazon and Microsoft. I hate ads for video content. I pay for Netflix and ad free Hulu. I use Plex for ad free content from CBS and the CW via by subscribing to the channels. It’s more ad blocking then piracy. Plex scrapes the content from the networks’ website real time and transcodes it and streams it. I pay for Apple Music and before that iTunes. I would pay for a high quality news source, I use to pay for WSJ.

lajhsdfkl 8y ago
> For tutorials, I pay $30 a month for a PluralSight subscription, $12-$20 for the occasional Udemy video and watch vendor supplied tutorials from Amazon and Microsoft Good for you that you can afford that. We all know the dream of the internet was information gated behind pay walls only accessible by the well off.

dnomad 8y ago

BTW, I agree, but I think the opposite is the case. I strongly suspect that in fact we'll see more content as the ad economy collapses. People don't understand just how much content is driven without ads for other reasons (like HN itself) and once more and more content gets locked behind subscription walls that indeed opens the door for free content to thrive. Combine this with strong, pervasive ad blocking and what you have is a recipe for the return of the free web.

tonyedgecombe 8y ago

Since you clearly haven't put much thought into this comment Sorry, did I say something to offend you?

AlexandrB 8y ago

> - content creators on youtube I only watch ad-free videos from content creators I fund on Patreon. I'm sick of Youtube's shitty advertising - it's as bad as TV when I was young, right down to running terrible political attack ads when I'm trying to take my mind off politics. > - music I don't think this is funded by ads. It's funded by VC dollars, since just about every streaming site is losing money right now. More to the point, my musical tastes are pretty eclectic so I usually have to buy Vinyl/CDs to get the music I want.