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Could you provide examples of things you like/don't like in OSX and XP?

Tichy 16y ago
OS X: can't deal with the Finder. I frequently don't know how to navigate to an upper directory, for example. I have troubles with the task bar, too (sometimes somehow I can't drag stuff into applications). I miss the show desktop button. I don't like that Apps stay open when I press "X" and I have to close them all with CMD+Q instead. Cut+Paste does not exist. It's all little things, but they add up. Windows 7: now the same problems with the finder. Impossible to find anything without utilising desktop search. No show desktop button anymore. Failed to copy the task bar appropriately: now to start a second command shell, from the task bar, I have to right click the icon. Noobs simply can't remember to use the right mouse button. Windows XP: flawed security model (everybody ends up running it as Administrator). Must admit that it has been a while since I worked with XP, but I remember that they had some touches that were actually useful. Apple does not go for useful touches, just pretty ones.
- michael_dorfman 16y ago
  No show desktop button anymore. It's there-- it just isn't labelled unless you mouse over it. All the way to the right, on the taskbar-- to the right of the clock. Lower-right-hand corner of the screen.
  - Tichy 16y ago
    Thanks - I would never in a million years have discovered that by chance. It is just an empy rectangle attached to the side of the screen - wtf? OK seriously, what Microsoft (and also Apple) should do is start a "coach your mum or granny" initiative. Everybody should help their granny or grandpa with their PC every once in a while. It is amazing how complicated it is to explain some things. How do I explain that "show desktop" is just an empty rectangle? How do I explain that apps are not really closed when you close them? And so on. Just imagine a noob sitting there asking "why?" and having to explain. Then improve the feature.
- epochwolf 16y ago
  > OS X: can't deal with the Finder. I frequently don't know how to navigate to an upper directory, for example. Four ways I know of. 1. Use the column view so you can see every folder you've navigated through. (My preference) 2. Right click on the title bar's label. 3. Use the path button on the toolbar. 4. Use the back button (Yeah, it's not always up) If the toolbar is missing, click the white button at the top right of the window to return to a regular Finder window. :) That said, none of those are exactly obvious which is a recurring problem with OSX. About the only thing OSX gets right in that category is that almost everything behaves the same so you don't have to figure it out twice. For example, open a document in textedit, you can right click on the title and get the folder tree the file exists in.
  - DeusExMachina 16y ago
    One more: press alt+cmd+up arrow on the keyboard.
    - callahad 16y ago
      Just cmd+up is fine
- mkilling 16y ago
  "Show desktop" is the button in the lower right corner. Or just use Windows+D

Tichy 16y ago

OS X: can't deal with the Finder. I frequently don't know how to navigate to an upper directory, for example. I have troubles with the task bar, too (sometimes somehow I can't drag stuff into applications). I miss the show desktop button. I don't like that Apps stay open when I press "X" and I have to close them all with CMD+Q instead. Cut+Paste does not exist. It's all little things, but they add up. Windows 7: now the same problems with the finder. Impossible to find anything without utilising desktop search. No show desktop button anymore. Failed to copy the task bar appropriately: now to start a second command shell, from the task bar, I have to right click the icon. Noobs simply can't remember to use the right mouse button. Windows XP: flawed security model (everybody ends up running it as Administrator). Must admit that it has been a while since I worked with XP, but I remember that they had some touches that were actually useful. Apple does not go for useful touches, just pretty ones.

michael_dorfman 16y ago
No show desktop button anymore. It's there-- it just isn't labelled unless you mouse over it. All the way to the right, on the taskbar-- to the right of the clock. Lower-right-hand corner of the screen.
- Tichy 16y ago
  Thanks - I would never in a million years have discovered that by chance. It is just an empy rectangle attached to the side of the screen - wtf? OK seriously, what Microsoft (and also Apple) should do is start a "coach your mum or granny" initiative. Everybody should help their granny or grandpa with their PC every once in a while. It is amazing how complicated it is to explain some things. How do I explain that "show desktop" is just an empty rectangle? How do I explain that apps are not really closed when you close them? And so on. Just imagine a noob sitting there asking "why?" and having to explain. Then improve the feature.
epochwolf 16y ago
> OS X: can't deal with the Finder. I frequently don't know how to navigate to an upper directory, for example. Four ways I know of. 1. Use the column view so you can see every folder you've navigated through. (My preference) 2. Right click on the title bar's label. 3. Use the path button on the toolbar. 4. Use the back button (Yeah, it's not always up) If the toolbar is missing, click the white button at the top right of the window to return to a regular Finder window. :) That said, none of those are exactly obvious which is a recurring problem with OSX. About the only thing OSX gets right in that category is that almost everything behaves the same so you don't have to figure it out twice. For example, open a document in textedit, you can right click on the title and get the folder tree the file exists in.
- DeusExMachina 16y ago
  One more: press alt+cmd+up arrow on the keyboard.
  - callahad 16y ago
    Just cmd+up is fine
mkilling 16y ago
"Show desktop" is the button in the lower right corner. Or just use Windows+D