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by caio1982 8y ago

gnicholas 8y ago
If you can't provide any direct support for your position (which is contradicted by dictionary definitions [1-3] and a forum discussion on the topic [4]), I won't continue to engage. Good day! 1: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concerted https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concerted 2: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/concerted http://www.dictionary.com/browse/concerted 3: https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/concerted https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/c... 4: https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2011/04/concerted.html https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2011/04/concerted.html
- deleted 8y ago
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- dsnuh 8y ago
  https://www.etymonline.com/word/concerted https://www.etymonline.com/word/concerted says it is a past participle of "concern". Not sure if it is correct, but it makes some sense if viewed with this in mind?
- pdonis 8y ago
  Here are two dictionary entries that do support using "concerted" to apply to a single person: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/concerted https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/concerted (entry 1.1) https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/concerted https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/conce... Note also that your link #4 references the Oxford English Dictionary, which is where the first link I give above comes from. The argument given in your link #4 seems plausible, but given the fact that there are reputable sources leaning both ways, I don't think you can say the single person usage is simply wrong. Perhaps "uncommon" might be a better term.
  - gnicholas 8y ago
    Thanks for adding these to the discussion. This was the sort of thing that I was hoping others would contribute. It's an interesting question as to what a word means when dictionaries differ. In some cases, the differences might exist on a spectrum (e.g., is "furious" more upset than "livid"). But in this case, we have a completely separate meaning that some dictionaries bless but others do not hint at. I would be curious to see whether there are historical trends here, which might hint if we're headed in one direction or the other.
    - TheSpiceIsLife 8y ago
      Dictionaries are, can only be, historical records of word definitions. Words mean what people intend them to mean when they use them. At least one dictionary I have lists a definition: 'done with great effort or determination: you must make a concerted effort to curb this.' Also, when I think of myself doing a concerted effort I think of all my faculties working together, if that helps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participle

If you can't provide any direct support for your position (which is contradicted by dictionary definitions [1-3] and a forum discussion on the topic [4]), I won't continue to engage. Good day! 1: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concerted https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concerted 2: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/concerted http://www.dictionary.com/browse/concerted 3: https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/concerted https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/c... 4: https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2011/04/concerted.html https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2011/04/concerted.html

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dsnuh 8y ago
https://www.etymonline.com/word/concerted https://www.etymonline.com/word/concerted says it is a past participle of "concern". Not sure if it is correct, but it makes some sense if viewed with this in mind?
pdonis 8y ago
Here are two dictionary entries that do support using "concerted" to apply to a single person: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/concerted https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/concerted (entry 1.1) https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/concerted https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/conce... Note also that your link #4 references the Oxford English Dictionary, which is where the first link I give above comes from. The argument given in your link #4 seems plausible, but given the fact that there are reputable sources leaning both ways, I don't think you can say the single person usage is simply wrong. Perhaps "uncommon" might be a better term.
- gnicholas 8y ago
  Thanks for adding these to the discussion. This was the sort of thing that I was hoping others would contribute. It's an interesting question as to what a word means when dictionaries differ. In some cases, the differences might exist on a spectrum (e.g., is "furious" more upset than "livid"). But in this case, we have a completely separate meaning that some dictionaries bless but others do not hint at. I would be curious to see whether there are historical trends here, which might hint if we're headed in one direction or the other.
  - TheSpiceIsLife 8y ago
    Dictionaries are, can only be, historical records of word definitions. Words mean what people intend them to mean when they use them. At least one dictionary I have lists a definition: 'done with great effort or determination: you must make a concerted effort to curb this.' Also, when I think of myself doing a concerted effort I think of all my faculties working together, if that helps.