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Vapor 3.0.0 released - Swift web framework

42 points by basil 8y ago

janekm 8y ago
This is pretty exciting. Fully non-blocking based on SwiftNIO and using Codable throughout (for Parsing and serializing content from HTTP messages, creating database models, and rendering views according to the release notes) are the headline features for me. I had a quick look at the new documentation as well and it looks excellent. When Swift was first released as open source the potential for using it server-side felt really intriguing, it's great to see how far along the community has come in such a fairly short time!
willio58 8y ago
I’ve built a handful of projects using vapor and it’s been a great experience so far. Their slack is a great place for getting help and just talking with the community. Can’t wait to use 3.0 now.
andor 8y ago
I'm sure this is great software and as quick as anyone needs, but their empty body plaintext benchmark leaves a bad taste. It's not just that with an empty body the results are even less relevant than typical "Hello World" benchmarks. It's the other frameworks that they picked: In their own benchmark, Vapor is about as quick Gin, written in Go. Looking at Techempower's latest web framework comparison [0], we see that Gin reaches only 27% the requests per second of the quickest tested framework, and 28% of the quickest framework written in Go. [0] http://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r15&hw=ph&test=plaintext&l=sg http://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r15&hw=p...
- vesak 8y ago
  27% in that test is pretty good, though. That's 750K requests per second. That test says nothing about real world performance though, that's true. The db read and write benchmarks are more useful.
- 33degrees 8y ago
  To be fair, the entry for Go that is 3x faster than Gin isn't a framework, it's just an http handling library. But it's clear their benchmarks are not complete enough to be useful; it's unfortunate that Techempower's vapor tests are broken.
benbristow 8y ago
Do you need a Mac to use this? The getting started guide says you need Xcode.
- vesak 8y ago
  Ubuntu LTS is a first-class citizen for Swift, and some Linux distros have unofficial packages. It includes a cli application like many other frameworks do.
vesak 8y ago
Swift is a brilliant environment. Always good to see more adoption for it. http://swift.org http://swift.org I simplify it as an easier Rust that comes with an official REPL.

42 points by basil 8y ago

This is pretty exciting. Fully non-blocking based on SwiftNIO and using Codable throughout (for Parsing and serializing content from HTTP messages, creating database models, and rendering views according to the release notes) are the headline features for me. I had a quick look at the new documentation as well and it looks excellent. When Swift was first released as open source the potential for using it server-side felt really intriguing, it's great to see how far along the community has come in such a fairly short time!

willio58 8y ago

I’ve built a handful of projects using vapor and it’s been a great experience so far. Their slack is a great place for getting help and just talking with the community. Can’t wait to use 3.0 now.

andor 8y ago

I'm sure this is great software and as quick as anyone needs, but their empty body plaintext benchmark leaves a bad taste. It's not just that with an empty body the results are even less relevant than typical "Hello World" benchmarks. It's the other frameworks that they picked: In their own benchmark, Vapor is about as quick Gin, written in Go. Looking at Techempower's latest web framework comparison [0], we see that Gin reaches only 27% the requests per second of the quickest tested framework, and 28% of the quickest framework written in Go. [0] http://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r15&hw=ph&test=plaintext&l=sg http://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r15&hw=p...

vesak 8y ago
27% in that test is pretty good, though. That's 750K requests per second. That test says nothing about real world performance though, that's true. The db read and write benchmarks are more useful.
33degrees 8y ago
To be fair, the entry for Go that is 3x faster than Gin isn't a framework, it's just an http handling library. But it's clear their benchmarks are not complete enough to be useful; it's unfortunate that Techempower's vapor tests are broken.

benbristow 8y ago

Do you need a Mac to use this? The getting started guide says you need Xcode.

vesak 8y ago
Ubuntu LTS is a first-class citizen for Swift, and some Linux distros have unofficial packages. It includes a cli application like many other frameworks do.

vesak 8y ago

Swift is a brilliant environment. Always good to see more adoption for it. http://swift.org http://swift.org I simplify it as an easier Rust that comes with an official REPL.