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That is absolutely not what I am saying. I am saying that there have been people killed for exactly this type of thing, and that she should not be surprised at
by blhack 16y ago
That is absolutely not what I am saying. I am saying that there have been people killed for exactly this type of thing, and that she should not be surprised at the outcome of her cartoon since that is what she was being told would happen.
It is peoples' own choice if they want to heed this or not. I personally would avoid angering any group of murderous extremists, no matter their religious affiliation.
- philk 16y agoThat is absolutely not what I am saying. I am saying that there have been people killed for exactly this type of thing, and that she should not be surprised at the outcome of her cartoon since that is what she was being told would happen. It is peoples' own choice if they want to heed this or not. I personally would avoid angering a group any group of murderous extremists, no matter their religious affiliation. I might be crazy but to me that reads as "people should just avoid doing anything that could possibly offend extremist muslims".
- blhack 16y agoThis has absolutely nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with choosing your battles.
- chc 16y agoMore like "People should expect extremist Muslims to react the same way as always if they do something that is likely to offend extremist Muslims." If you're unafraid of the extremists' reactions, go ahead. You should know to expect it, though. Similarly, if you want to leave your laptop on a park bench and walk away, that's your prerogative, but you should know the possible consequences.
- blahedo 16y agoAnd if you wear a short skirt you shouldn't be surprised if you get raped? I mean, seriously, we've been down this road before. It's not a pretty place.
- uxp 16y agoI think Ryan is trying to say "people should just avoid doing anything that could possibly offend extremists, if they don't want to have death threats put upon their life" Which is pretty common sense... If you don't want to be hated, then don't commit hurtful and damnit actions. The political argument is whether citizens of other countries, specifically western countries like the United States, should respect other countries who have a clear majority religion that isn't necessarily Christianity.
- hugh3 16y agoI personally would avoid angering any group of murderous extremists, no matter their religious affiliation. This is, of course, precisely their strategy. By being irrational and murderous every time their demands are not met, they slowly advance in the cultural war. First, they stop us from drawing their prophet. Once that gain is cemented, they can start agitating for something else: maybe they'll tell us that our eating pork is offensive to them. And it'll take a while, but by a combination of extremists who actively kill people who eat pork and "moderates" who merely sit around tut-tutting and saying that while they personally deplore violence they can certainly see how somebody else might get upset about it. Then alcohol, then unveiled women, then... who knows? The eventual goal is, of course, to eradicate everything other than Islam, and while I don't think you can get there from here, I can at least see how they think you can get there from here. As such, I applaud anyone who is willing to stand up and say "No, sod off" to the whole idea.
- Jd 16y agoThere are lots of subtle things they have already achieved that you might not know about because they are not covered extensively in the press because if they were... For instance, Random House recently bowed to pressure and did not publish a novel about Mohammed's 9 year old wife. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93503128 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9350312...
- hugh3 16y agoIndeed. And while ultimately the novel doesn't matter (well, except maybe to the person who spent ages writing it) what does matter is that every time this happens they're learning one very important lesson: violence works.