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Not really. The vast majority of those 35 million live in 3 really small areas. Just like the vast majority of california lives on the coast. California is a ph

by soperj 9y ago

Not really. The vast majority of those 35 million live in 3 really small areas. Just like the vast majority of california lives on the coast. California is a physically huge state by the way, that is fairly sparsely populated in big swaths of the state.

jgh 9y ago
Unlike Canada, California benefits from a pool of ~290 million other people who self-select to move there with 0 barriers other than having a few dollars to buy a gray hound ticket.
- soperj 9y ago
  That's very true.
- moorhosj 9y ago
  Is the cost of housing a barrier?
  - pm90 9y ago
    If you're asking this seriously... yes it is a barrier, but not as great as Immigration/moving to a completely new country. Which is not to discount California's tremendous housing crunch. I am merely pointing out that its a much lower risk for a young single US citizen to just move to CA, try it out for a few months, if they can't get a job or make it, then just drive back. It is much harder for people from outside the country to do the same.
  - ironjunkie 9y ago
    Not really. The cost of housing is huge and a barrier if you are not in tech, But if you move for tech you can definitely find a place and pay the crazy rent with your new salary.
wjn0 9y ago
Yeah, I guess (I was curious, and you're right, about 1/3 live in Vancouver, Toronto, and Montréal metro areas), but (to me) the culture varies a lot more between Toronto and Montréal than between SF and, I don't know, some of the more rural parts of California. Thinking like a business, the difference in regulations is much more significant as well.
ralphie02 9y ago
As per the comment below, the population between Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal is about a third of the total population (about 12M). Bit pedantic but this really is a far cry from being the "vast majority" of Canada's population.
- soperj 9y ago
  Golden Horseshoe is 9.2 million alone. So 12 million is definitely on the low side.

by soperj 9y ago

jgh 9y ago

Unlike Canada, California benefits from a pool of ~290 million other people who self-select to move there with 0 barriers other than having a few dollars to buy a gray hound ticket.

soperj 9y ago
That's very true.
moorhosj 9y ago
Is the cost of housing a barrier?
- pm90 9y ago
  If you're asking this seriously... yes it is a barrier, but not as great as Immigration/moving to a completely new country. Which is not to discount California's tremendous housing crunch. I am merely pointing out that its a much lower risk for a young single US citizen to just move to CA, try it out for a few months, if they can't get a job or make it, then just drive back. It is much harder for people from outside the country to do the same.
- ironjunkie 9y ago
  Not really. The cost of housing is huge and a barrier if you are not in tech, But if you move for tech you can definitely find a place and pay the crazy rent with your new salary.

wjn0 9y ago

Yeah, I guess (I was curious, and you're right, about 1/3 live in Vancouver, Toronto, and Montréal metro areas), but (to me) the culture varies a lot more between Toronto and Montréal than between SF and, I don't know, some of the more rural parts of California. Thinking like a business, the difference in regulations is much more significant as well.

ralphie02 9y ago

As per the comment below, the population between Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal is about a third of the total population (about 12M). Bit pedantic but this really is a far cry from being the "vast majority" of Canada's population.

soperj 9y ago
Golden Horseshoe is 9.2 million alone. So 12 million is definitely on the low side.