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>They never learned to control and own their systems. The overarching presumption here being that people want to learn to control and own their systems in the

>They never learned to control and own their systems. The overarching presumption here being that people want to learn to control and own their systems in the way you describe. By and large, they don't. This is evidenced plainly by the nonimpact of the "Cambridge Analytica Scandal," which, as far I can tell, has persuaded precisely zero people to move from the platform. The offending platform company recently held a highly successful convention to announce their new tech. Their stock has mostly recovered. Facebook continues to eat the world. The future does not look like freedom box. The future looks like WeChat.

stevenicr 8y ago
"zero people to move from the platform." seems like an outrageous claim. I have talked to several different types of fbook users, and some have removed apps, but not their account, many have mentioned that they have more dread in it's functions that joy in it's uses. Everyone I have spoken has changed the ways they use it, have lost trust in it, and are censoring themselves even more now than they were. Well not 100% of the people I have spoken with, my 80 year old grandmother still uses it the same, however she is now taking the advice of many and not believing anything she sees on there without researching sources further, which is a great thing imo. My sample size of fbook users is of course something like 4.5e-7% or something like that, so not that much different that the precisely zero statement. I think it's sage to say it looks for some time that fbook was trying desperately to encourage people to share as much as possible via the portal, and I think many people are realizing that is not the best thing for most people. I don't have access to the internal stats that may show this or not, and I do now expect the co to announce these kinds of metrics in a helpful way either. Maybe someone on the inside can publish them via tinder and brag they have access to that kind of data and get better dates. I would expect more snaplike than wechat like in the future for things that are personal, but we'll see. I've always thought fbook would become the new linked in (sterilized from personal stuff publicly), just as big G is becoming more like the yellow pages. This does open up desires for many groups around the world to have freedom boxes or something similar I imagine.

stevenicr 8y ago

"zero people to move from the platform." seems like an outrageous claim. I have talked to several different types of fbook users, and some have removed apps, but not their account, many have mentioned that they have more dread in it's functions that joy in it's uses. Everyone I have spoken has changed the ways they use it, have lost trust in it, and are censoring themselves even more now than they were. Well not 100% of the people I have spoken with, my 80 year old grandmother still uses it the same, however she is now taking the advice of many and not believing anything she sees on there without researching sources further, which is a great thing imo. My sample size of fbook users is of course something like 4.5e-7% or something like that, so not that much different that the precisely zero statement. I think it's sage to say it looks for some time that fbook was trying desperately to encourage people to share as much as possible via the portal, and I think many people are realizing that is not the best thing for most people. I don't have access to the internal stats that may show this or not, and I do now expect the co to announce these kinds of metrics in a helpful way either. Maybe someone on the inside can publish them via tinder and brag they have access to that kind of data and get better dates. I would expect more snaplike than wechat like in the future for things that are personal, but we'll see. I've always thought fbook would become the new linked in (sterilized from personal stuff publicly), just as big G is becoming more like the yellow pages. This does open up desires for many groups around the world to have freedom boxes or something similar I imagine.