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I'm in this situation, that is I'm graduating next year and I already have a job lined up in SV. Personally, there just isn't anything for me here. I hate winte

I'm in this situation, that is I'm graduating next year and I already have a job lined up in SV. Personally, there just isn't anything for me here. I hate winter (depression for 7 months, anyone?). Everything is far. Entertainment is sparse unless it involves 1) hockey or 2) drinking, or both. Pay is shit. Prices are shit. Selection is shit (have you tried using Amazon CA?). Food, at least where I am, is good but no seafood. Above else, thought, in SV I just feel like I belong. On the train here, an old man snapped at me for reading a maths text with some anti-intellectual line.

2RTZZSro 8y ago
Which city in Canada are you studying in? Have you spent some time in SV?
- pmalynin 8y ago
  Edmonton. I worked in MTV for 4 months, 4 months in Seattle, and I'm leaving on Monday to SV again for the summer.
  - latenightcoding 8y ago
    Most of the things you hate about Canada would not be true if you moved DT Toronto or Montreal.
    - isostatic 8y ago
      I went to Toronto last summer for a couple of days, the area by the water was fairly nice, but aside from that it felt very oppressive - lots of roads, flyovers, and cars with priority. I know Canadians like to think of themselves as "different", but I could see more difference between the three cities I'd visited in the previous couple of weeks - NY, DC and LA than I could between Toronto and anywhere else in the US Perhaps I didn't stay long enough, but if I compare with other cities, like Berlin, Rome, Lisbon, London, Singapore, Nairobi, Sydney, Delhi, Tokyo, etc, Toronto just felt like a typical North American city.
  - vkou 8y ago
    That's not a Canada problem, that's an Edmonton problem. You'll have all the same complaints if you lived in Gary, Indiana.
    - fudged71 8y ago
      Not entirely true. Costs across Canada are getting pretty absurd. Air travel, mobile data, wages, shipping, consumer goods, housing, insurance https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/8gui6r/are_canadians_just_getting_fucked_all_ways_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/8gui6r/are_canadian...
  - fudged71 8y ago
    I have very similar feelings in Calgary although it's improving slowly. But I have spent a lot of time in silicon valley and it has recently felt a lot worse, dangerous and gross. I hope my next trip brightens my spirits but it's getting harder for me to love the bay area.
  - cmrdporcupine 8y ago
    Edmonton is my home town. There's better options here in the Toronto area and our winter is not so long. Forget what people out west say about it. It's mostly pretty good here, depending on what you're looking for. Vibrant city. But SV will still pay almost double.
leonroy 8y ago
Well.. grabbing the light rail in the Bay Area and changing at Santa Clara around 9pm was an eye opening experience. Let’s just say an old man snapping at my geeky reading would’ve been the least of my concerns. I had one guy pushing a cart trying to sell me drugs, a bunch of school kids leering at everyone and making a nuisance of themselves and just a general feeling that everyone with any sort of reasonable level of income was not using public transit. I’m from London, where you’ll be on the tube train with everyone from cleaners to financiers. It’s pretty democratic. Not so in San Jose at all. Very depressing in fact.
- octorian 8y ago
  Which train was this? There are two major train systems going through the area. There's Caltrain, which will be full of professionals if you ride it close to working hours. Then there's VTA Light Rail, which is effectively "the bus on rails." Later in the evening it will be full of the type you describe.
  - leonroy 8y ago
    Edited my post too late - it was light rail from Gish maybe to Ohlone/Chynoweth. Had to change at Santa Clara.
    - ummonk 8y ago
      Yeah that's VTA. Not really used by professionals.
      - leonroy 8y ago
        But why isn’t it used by professionals? It seemed clean enough, punctual and conveniently located as well as being reasonably priced. Is there an alternative (besides owning a car) that I’m missing for travelling around the conurbation of Sunnyvale, Santa Clara, San Jose et al.
        8y ago
monkeynotes 8y ago
Not that I advocate Vancouver in its entirety, but Vancouver has good food, good pay, and loads of outdoors activities and weekend adventure possibilities along with a shit-ton of tech jobs that need filling. The weather is pretty normal too, not far off of SF. Problem with Vancouver is it's kind of dull entertainment-wise. Lacks vibrancy of some US cities. It's more or less as expensive to live as SF is, and obviously has less of a startup culture. But overall I'd agree Canada is not all that appealing to people who have choices. Had I been able to choose when I was younger I'd have not ended up in Vancouver, but it sure beats out (IMO) London, UK which was my alternative.
- soperj 8y ago
  good pay? nope.
mitjak 8y ago
I'm gonna guess you're from Vancouver :)

2RTZZSro 8y ago

Which city in Canada are you studying in? Have you spent some time in SV?

pmalynin 8y ago
Edmonton. I worked in MTV for 4 months, 4 months in Seattle, and I'm leaving on Monday to SV again for the summer.
- latenightcoding 8y ago
  Most of the things you hate about Canada would not be true if you moved DT Toronto or Montreal.
  - isostatic 8y ago
    I went to Toronto last summer for a couple of days, the area by the water was fairly nice, but aside from that it felt very oppressive - lots of roads, flyovers, and cars with priority. I know Canadians like to think of themselves as "different", but I could see more difference between the three cities I'd visited in the previous couple of weeks - NY, DC and LA than I could between Toronto and anywhere else in the US Perhaps I didn't stay long enough, but if I compare with other cities, like Berlin, Rome, Lisbon, London, Singapore, Nairobi, Sydney, Delhi, Tokyo, etc, Toronto just felt like a typical North American city.
- vkou 8y ago
  That's not a Canada problem, that's an Edmonton problem. You'll have all the same complaints if you lived in Gary, Indiana.
  - fudged71 8y ago
    Not entirely true. Costs across Canada are getting pretty absurd. Air travel, mobile data, wages, shipping, consumer goods, housing, insurance https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/8gui6r/are_canadians_just_getting_fucked_all_ways_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/8gui6r/are_canadian...
- fudged71 8y ago
  I have very similar feelings in Calgary although it's improving slowly. But I have spent a lot of time in silicon valley and it has recently felt a lot worse, dangerous and gross. I hope my next trip brightens my spirits but it's getting harder for me to love the bay area.
- cmrdporcupine 8y ago
  Edmonton is my home town. There's better options here in the Toronto area and our winter is not so long. Forget what people out west say about it. It's mostly pretty good here, depending on what you're looking for. Vibrant city. But SV will still pay almost double.

leonroy 8y ago

Well.. grabbing the light rail in the Bay Area and changing at Santa Clara around 9pm was an eye opening experience. Let’s just say an old man snapping at my geeky reading would’ve been the least of my concerns. I had one guy pushing a cart trying to sell me drugs, a bunch of school kids leering at everyone and making a nuisance of themselves and just a general feeling that everyone with any sort of reasonable level of income was not using public transit. I’m from London, where you’ll be on the tube train with everyone from cleaners to financiers. It’s pretty democratic. Not so in San Jose at all. Very depressing in fact.

octorian 8y ago
Which train was this? There are two major train systems going through the area. There's Caltrain, which will be full of professionals if you ride it close to working hours. Then there's VTA Light Rail, which is effectively "the bus on rails." Later in the evening it will be full of the type you describe.
- leonroy 8y ago
  Edited my post too late - it was light rail from Gish maybe to Ohlone/Chynoweth. Had to change at Santa Clara.
  - ummonk 8y ago
    Yeah that's VTA. Not really used by professionals.
    - leonroy 8y ago
      But why isn’t it used by professionals? It seemed clean enough, punctual and conveniently located as well as being reasonably priced. Is there an alternative (besides owning a car) that I’m missing for travelling around the conurbation of Sunnyvale, Santa Clara, San Jose et al.
      - 8y ago

monkeynotes 8y ago

Not that I advocate Vancouver in its entirety, but Vancouver has good food, good pay, and loads of outdoors activities and weekend adventure possibilities along with a shit-ton of tech jobs that need filling. The weather is pretty normal too, not far off of SF. Problem with Vancouver is it's kind of dull entertainment-wise. Lacks vibrancy of some US cities. It's more or less as expensive to live as SF is, and obviously has less of a startup culture. But overall I'd agree Canada is not all that appealing to people who have choices. Had I been able to choose when I was younger I'd have not ended up in Vancouver, but it sure beats out (IMO) London, UK which was my alternative.

soperj 8y ago
good pay? nope.

mitjak 8y ago

I'm gonna guess you're from Vancouver :)