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One main caveat "graduates from three of the country’s top universities – University of Waterloo, University of British Columbia and U of T – were working outsi

by giarc 8y ago

One main caveat "graduates from three of the country’s top universities – University of Waterloo, University of British Columbia and U of T – were working outside Canada." There are many other schools in Canada offering STEM programs.

lainga 8y ago
At UVic, many of my upper-year friends went down to FB or Tesla.
chrisseaton 8y ago
Oh great so they're only losing the best then?
- local_yokel 8y ago
  As with most people from ivy league schools, they're certainly the best at believing they're the best based exclusively on where they come from.
- giarc 8y ago
  Although I'm not arguing the fact that Canadian grads are going south, I'm just pointing out the specific details which are important. Not only the fact that the rates are for 3 schools in Canada, but also their techniques to find people were to view their linkedin profiles. Why not go to Alumni Affairs at these schools and get contact lists? Not everyone has a LinkedIn profile, and by only contacting those with a profile, you are potentially introducing bias into the selection.
  - chrisseaton 8y ago
    > Why not go to Alumni Affairs at these schools and get contact lists? Because of data protection laws?
    - giarc 8y ago
      Alumni Affairs conducts surveys of their members all the time. The researchers could have approached them, had alumni affairs send out a survey to particular students and received a much better representation of the student population.
      - chrisseaton 8y ago
        You said why not 'get a contact list', not 'ask them to contact people for you'.
        giarc 8y ago
        That's called "splitting hairs".
  - jokh 8y ago
    > Not everyone has a LinkedIn profile, and by only contacting those with a profile, you are potentially introducing bias into the selection How? Are you saying Canadian graduates that go south are more likely to have a LinkedIn profile?
- ryanobjc 8y ago
  Pretty much. Which tells you what about those who remain behind?

by giarc 8y ago

lainga 8y ago

At UVic, many of my upper-year friends went down to FB or Tesla.

chrisseaton 8y ago

Oh great so they're only losing the best then?

local_yokel 8y ago
As with most people from ivy league schools, they're certainly the best at believing they're the best based exclusively on where they come from.
giarc 8y ago
Although I'm not arguing the fact that Canadian grads are going south, I'm just pointing out the specific details which are important. Not only the fact that the rates are for 3 schools in Canada, but also their techniques to find people were to view their linkedin profiles. Why not go to Alumni Affairs at these schools and get contact lists? Not everyone has a LinkedIn profile, and by only contacting those with a profile, you are potentially introducing bias into the selection.
- chrisseaton 8y ago
  > Why not go to Alumni Affairs at these schools and get contact lists? Because of data protection laws?
  - giarc 8y ago
    Alumni Affairs conducts surveys of their members all the time. The researchers could have approached them, had alumni affairs send out a survey to particular students and received a much better representation of the student population.
    - chrisseaton 8y ago
      You said why not 'get a contact list', not 'ask them to contact people for you'.
      - giarc 8y ago
        That's called "splitting hairs".
- jokh 8y ago
  > Not everyone has a LinkedIn profile, and by only contacting those with a profile, you are potentially introducing bias into the selection How? Are you saying Canadian graduates that go south are more likely to have a LinkedIn profile?
ryanobjc 8y ago
Pretty much. Which tells you what about those who remain behind?