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There's tons of actual productive work that could be done though. Cleaning trash from streets and parks, filling potholes, fixing sidewalks, pulling weeds, pain

There's tons of actual productive work that could be done though. Cleaning trash from streets and parks, filling potholes, fixing sidewalks, pulling weeds, painting over graffiti. These things would would make everyone's days a little nicer.

monocasa 9y ago
Or even stuff that has real meaning. Rebuilding our crumbling highway system, laying fiber to the home for a next gen telecoms infrastructure. Just going back to school and getting information job skills. Child care. The list goes on and on without resorting to telephone handset cleaners.
- vkou 9y ago
  For some reason, even when people acknowledge that there is an endless amount of busywork work that could be done, the suggestions are always meaningless fluff. Cleaning up the parks? Yeah, that's better then sitting around on your ass, watching Netflix for 8 hours, but there's so much more that people could do... Which would, of course, compete with private industry.
- CountSessine 9y ago
  Cleaning trash from streets and parks, filling potholes, fixing sidewalks, pulling weeds, painting over graffiti. These things would would make everyone's days a little nicer. Or even stuff that has real meaning Why do you think that maintaining safe and beautiful cities has no real meaning? Someone needs to do it. Is this just elitism?
  - monocasa 9y ago
    Kind of the opposite. The very idea of paying people to pull weeds on sidewalks screams of elitism when my state doesn't even have full day kindergarten, and some of the worst roads in the country (CO).
crdoconnor 9y ago
Oh I agree. High unemployment and a lot of bullshit jobs doesn't mean that we've run out of things to do. It just means that employment is being deliberately repressed and the economic system has been morphed into dysfunctional beast that serves a tiny number of privileged people.
dsego 9y ago
This exists, it's called public works programmes.

monocasa 9y ago

Or even stuff that has real meaning. Rebuilding our crumbling highway system, laying fiber to the home for a next gen telecoms infrastructure. Just going back to school and getting information job skills. Child care. The list goes on and on without resorting to telephone handset cleaners.

vkou 9y ago
For some reason, even when people acknowledge that there is an endless amount of busywork work that could be done, the suggestions are always meaningless fluff. Cleaning up the parks? Yeah, that's better then sitting around on your ass, watching Netflix for 8 hours, but there's so much more that people could do... Which would, of course, compete with private industry.
CountSessine 9y ago
Cleaning trash from streets and parks, filling potholes, fixing sidewalks, pulling weeds, painting over graffiti. These things would would make everyone's days a little nicer. Or even stuff that has real meaning Why do you think that maintaining safe and beautiful cities has no real meaning? Someone needs to do it. Is this just elitism?
- monocasa 9y ago
  Kind of the opposite. The very idea of paying people to pull weeds on sidewalks screams of elitism when my state doesn't even have full day kindergarten, and some of the worst roads in the country (CO).

crdoconnor 9y ago

Oh I agree. High unemployment and a lot of bullshit jobs doesn't mean that we've run out of things to do. It just means that employment is being deliberately repressed and the economic system has been morphed into dysfunctional beast that serves a tiny number of privileged people.

dsego 9y ago

This exists, it's called public works programmes.