> ... so I think it's hard to argue that Apple has somehow screwed up as a business. I don't think anyone was stating this. Merely that their ventures into spa

> ... so I think it's hard to argue that Apple has somehow screwed up as a business. I don't think anyone was stating this. Merely that their ventures into spaces that typically would be privacy-hostile didn't work out for them anywhere near as well as it did for Google and Facebook. OP's point seems to be saying something more along the lines that perhaps those particular failures helped them decide to stay (or become) more privacy-focused.