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Facebook’s downfalls are numerous: - ads - promotion of gossip to a global audience - peer-pressured risk-taking - pics, videos and other content that’s usu

by himom 8y ago

Facebook’s downfalls are numerous: - ads - promotion of gossip to a global audience - peer-pressured risk-taking - pics, videos and other content that’s usually boring A real friends platform: - video / text chat - arranging spontaneous and planned activities - gather/raise funds for group activities - where people are at - what people are up to - finding new friends from friends of friends for activities - find new interests, get recommendations - visualize social circles - paid for by users - never sells data

the_common_man 8y ago
Who pays for the real friends platform?
- jacobush 8y ago
  Who pays for the real friends?
  - pgeorgi 8y ago
    The payment isn't for the friends, but for the environment in which you meet them: You could pay membership fees for a club to be able to use their rooms to hang out with your peers. (paid community server) You can meet at your home, where you have to clean up and bring snacks yourself. (personal hosting) Or you can meet in a cafe, where access is free, with the expectation that there will be a different but related financial transaction (food and beverages). ("free" servers paid by ads) I can't think of a good analogy of meeting your friends in a fully public space.
- 2sk21 8y ago
  Related question: can they even pay? The vast majority of the new users of Facebook are from developing countries with low income. There is no way to make them voluntarily pay for access to a social network.
- Fedoranimus 8y ago
  > - paid for by users This suggests that the users would.
- lallysingh 8y ago
  Split them up into different services by different vendors. A better* openid would make this easy. * Better to include more privacy.
- dreamfactored 8y ago
  Initially VC, then advertisers. It's more of the same shit but ridiculous given FB's size to think the market can only have one player. The way to accelerate network growth is base on an open source standard and encourage competitors using it.
CM30 8y ago
Aren't most of Facebook's issues social media issues in general? Most have ads, most promote gossip to a global audience, most inspire risk taking, etc. You could probably say the same thing about Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, maybe Reddit, etc. A real friends platform like you mention is basically just social media, except user paid for and privacy friendly. Which is a neat idea, but comes into the issue of who exactly will pay for it, given people's insistence that things online are free.

by himom 8y ago

the_common_man 8y ago

Who pays for the real friends platform?

jacobush 8y ago
Who pays for the real friends?
- pgeorgi 8y ago
  The payment isn't for the friends, but for the environment in which you meet them: You could pay membership fees for a club to be able to use their rooms to hang out with your peers. (paid community server) You can meet at your home, where you have to clean up and bring snacks yourself. (personal hosting) Or you can meet in a cafe, where access is free, with the expectation that there will be a different but related financial transaction (food and beverages). ("free" servers paid by ads) I can't think of a good analogy of meeting your friends in a fully public space.
2sk21 8y ago
Related question: can they even pay? The vast majority of the new users of Facebook are from developing countries with low income. There is no way to make them voluntarily pay for access to a social network.
Fedoranimus 8y ago
> - paid for by users This suggests that the users would.
lallysingh 8y ago
Split them up into different services by different vendors. A better* openid would make this easy. * Better to include more privacy.
dreamfactored 8y ago
Initially VC, then advertisers. It's more of the same shit but ridiculous given FB's size to think the market can only have one player. The way to accelerate network growth is base on an open source standard and encourage competitors using it.

CM30 8y ago

Aren't most of Facebook's issues social media issues in general? Most have ads, most promote gossip to a global audience, most inspire risk taking, etc. You could probably say the same thing about Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, maybe Reddit, etc. A real friends platform like you mention is basically just social media, except user paid for and privacy friendly. Which is a neat idea, but comes into the issue of who exactly will pay for it, given people's insistence that things online are free.