5 ms·

Wasn't that the peace prize, though?

majewsky 8y ago
In an alternate reality, Trump gets the Nobel prize in literature for his tweets. EDIT: Thinking about it, that would actually be a really classy and fnord-y move.
- delbel 8y ago
  He called a dictator short and fat and it lead to total denuclearization, likely peace and unification between a region in conflict for over 60 years.
  - krylon 8y ago
    I kind of suspect the Korean heads of state decided to make peace before Trump had a chance to mess it up. Still, judged by the outcome, it's kind of impressive. ;-)
  - pavlov 8y ago
    Careful — nothing has yet been done towards denuclearization except a non-committing promise by Kim to halt further tests for now. The regime has made similar promises several times over the past 25 years.
    - yk 8y ago
      Well NK has committed to denuclearization[1], while the US also talk about denuclearization[2]. In general, that is what makes half of foreign policy reporting semi-useless, newspapers rarely report in which sense diplomats use the words. (Compare "fighting terrorist" as claimed by everybody, in general terrorist is just defined by threatening the interests of the speaker.) [1] Likely meaning a mutual, synchronous and long term reduction of nuclear weapons towards a global zero goal. (Like the stated US nuclear policy of the Obama administration.) [2] Meaning a prompt and unilateral abolishment of the NK nuclear program, as in Libya.
    - meatbags 8y ago
      They didn't have nukes or ICBM's before, so their hand is much stronger.
    - briandear 8y ago
      Yet Kim Dae Jung won in 2000 because of similar promises. And Obama won for absolutely nothing. So there is definitely precedent for prizes awarded with minimal lasting results. Knowing the Nobel Committee though, Kim Jung Un is more likely to win.
      - pavlov 8y ago
        I wish the Norwegians would adopt a strict rule against awarding any politicians before they're retired from public service. Obama's prize was pointless and actively damaged the perception of the Peace Prize in the United States. There are so many worthy recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize that are virtually unknown outside their specific non-profit niches — focus on those instead, and use the prize to highlight their work.
  - toomanybeersies 8y ago
    > My good friends, for the second time in our history, an American President has returned from Korea bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts. Go home and get a nice quiet sleep.
  - _pmf_ 8y ago
    > He called a dictator short and fat He first called him Rocket Man, which was an ingenious way of telling him "OK, you have achieved what you wanted" and praising him in a way. He pulled Kim into the eye of the public in a non-humiliating way (the "short and fat" was a response to Kim calling him senile first).
  - IIAOPSW 8y ago
    Its too good to be true so it probably is.
  - sorenjan 8y ago
    World leaders have learned that they need to stroke Trump's ego in public by now, but the peace talks in Korea is probably more due to Xi Jinping than Trump. The Chinese just chose to not do it over Twitter. Remember that Kim Jong Un took a train to Beijing, yet no gloating tweets have been made about how successful the meeting was. The results speak for themselves.
    - MichaelGG 8y ago
      Why would China want Korea unified? I can't imagine China wants that long NK border holding SK/US agents or tech.
- cabaalis 8y ago
  I continue to think it's silly when people assume Trump just tweets his thoughts directly with no regard for results. That might have happened in the past during his campaign, but multiple people have handled that account. I can see no way that the people working high-level jobs in the White House would ever continue to do that work without some idea of and input into his thought processes. It's too important, and the people there are too credentialed. I'm inclined to believe that when he writes a tweet that people can't seem to interpret, it's because it's aimed at achieving a specific result with specific people.
alkonaut 8y ago
Why not both? he has the bestest words and he wrote multiple books.
- swebs 8y ago
  Comments like these are why I'm glad there's a "no politics" rule.
  - icebraining 8y ago
    There's isn't, though.
    - gergles 8y ago
      Clearly, because there's an unabashed, irrelevant circlejerk thread of Trump-bashing on a post about the Literature Nobel prize.

In an alternate reality, Trump gets the Nobel prize in literature for his tweets. EDIT: Thinking about it, that would actually be a really classy and fnord-y move.

delbel 8y ago
He called a dictator short and fat and it lead to total denuclearization, likely peace and unification between a region in conflict for over 60 years.
- krylon 8y ago
  I kind of suspect the Korean heads of state decided to make peace before Trump had a chance to mess it up. Still, judged by the outcome, it's kind of impressive. ;-)
- pavlov 8y ago
  Careful — nothing has yet been done towards denuclearization except a non-committing promise by Kim to halt further tests for now. The regime has made similar promises several times over the past 25 years.
  - yk 8y ago
    Well NK has committed to denuclearization[1], while the US also talk about denuclearization[2]. In general, that is what makes half of foreign policy reporting semi-useless, newspapers rarely report in which sense diplomats use the words. (Compare "fighting terrorist" as claimed by everybody, in general terrorist is just defined by threatening the interests of the speaker.) [1] Likely meaning a mutual, synchronous and long term reduction of nuclear weapons towards a global zero goal. (Like the stated US nuclear policy of the Obama administration.) [2] Meaning a prompt and unilateral abolishment of the NK nuclear program, as in Libya.
  - meatbags 8y ago
    They didn't have nukes or ICBM's before, so their hand is much stronger.
  - briandear 8y ago
    Yet Kim Dae Jung won in 2000 because of similar promises. And Obama won for absolutely nothing. So there is definitely precedent for prizes awarded with minimal lasting results. Knowing the Nobel Committee though, Kim Jung Un is more likely to win.
    - pavlov 8y ago
      I wish the Norwegians would adopt a strict rule against awarding any politicians before they're retired from public service. Obama's prize was pointless and actively damaged the perception of the Peace Prize in the United States. There are so many worthy recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize that are virtually unknown outside their specific non-profit niches — focus on those instead, and use the prize to highlight their work.
- toomanybeersies 8y ago
  > My good friends, for the second time in our history, an American President has returned from Korea bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts. Go home and get a nice quiet sleep.
- _pmf_ 8y ago
  > He called a dictator short and fat He first called him Rocket Man, which was an ingenious way of telling him "OK, you have achieved what you wanted" and praising him in a way. He pulled Kim into the eye of the public in a non-humiliating way (the "short and fat" was a response to Kim calling him senile first).
- IIAOPSW 8y ago
  Its too good to be true so it probably is.
- sorenjan 8y ago
  World leaders have learned that they need to stroke Trump's ego in public by now, but the peace talks in Korea is probably more due to Xi Jinping than Trump. The Chinese just chose to not do it over Twitter. Remember that Kim Jong Un took a train to Beijing, yet no gloating tweets have been made about how successful the meeting was. The results speak for themselves.
  - MichaelGG 8y ago
    Why would China want Korea unified? I can't imagine China wants that long NK border holding SK/US agents or tech.
cabaalis 8y ago
I continue to think it's silly when people assume Trump just tweets his thoughts directly with no regard for results. That might have happened in the past during his campaign, but multiple people have handled that account. I can see no way that the people working high-level jobs in the White House would ever continue to do that work without some idea of and input into his thought processes. It's too important, and the people there are too credentialed. I'm inclined to believe that when he writes a tweet that people can't seem to interpret, it's because it's aimed at achieving a specific result with specific people.

alkonaut 8y ago

Why not both? he has the bestest words and he wrote multiple books.

swebs 8y ago
Comments like these are why I'm glad there's a "no politics" rule.
- icebraining 8y ago
  There's isn't, though.
  - gergles 8y ago
    Clearly, because there's an unabashed, irrelevant circlejerk thread of Trump-bashing on a post about the Literature Nobel prize.