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> What created math? You presume it was created. It might be as valid a question as "who created erosion", aka math is a natural extension of our universe.

• krapp 8y ago
  >aka math is a natural extension of our universe Or, more likely IMO, our universe is a natural extension of math.
  • deciplex 8y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_universe_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_universe_hypothes... I get it, but I can't quite wrap my head around a mathematical universe with no substrate. As though any internally consistent ontology with self-aware structures (and, it seems to me, also those without) just "exists" apropos of nothing. What's doing the math?
    • kazinator 8y ago
      Once you postulate a substrate, you then have to wrap your head around what is its substrate, and what is that substrate's substrate and so on. When you look at it that way, the no-substrate version looks better.
    • tim333 8y ago
      Who invented all the digits of pi? They just are what they are without needing a substrate. It seems real because you are part of it like being in VR.
      • deciplex 8y ago
        I said "what" is doing the math, not "who".