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If you're asking for C with 4.5 hours of work (as per example above) that's fine if you're paying for their time. Cheaper than a bad hire, stops you missing ou

If you're asking for C with 4.5 hours of work (as per example above) that's fine if you're paying for their time. Cheaper than a bad hire, stops you missing out on good hires who think "fuck that".

DenisM 8y ago
If C should be paid for, then should A be paid for as well? If not, why not?
- reacweb 8y ago
  In A both the interviewer and the interviewee are giving a similar amount of time. In C, only one is giving time. To compensate, the other should give money.
  - andrewwharton 8y ago
    In C the interviewer is also spending time reviewing the assignment. Maybe not the same amount, but if you also have a handful of your current devs review it and give their feedback, the company time spent on it might not be trivial. Also there is usually more than one person sitting with the interviewee when they come in, so the company time spent is multiplied at that stage.
flukus 8y ago
> Cheaper than a bad hire, stops you missing out on good hires who think "fuck that". Does it? If I have a developer job then I'm paid well and don't really care about the money which I have enough of, I care about the time which I have very little of. If you're in the top 0.01% of companies to work for (and the applicant knows that) then it's probably a worthwhile time investment, but for the other 99.99% it's a waste.
- AFNobody 8y ago
  If you are interviewing with a company, asking you to spend time in exchange for money is reasonable. If you feel you are above that exchange, personally, that is an effective filter for a potential problem employee.
  - flukus 8y ago
    > If you are interviewing with a company, asking you to spend time in exchange for money is reasonable. These tests are typically a pre-interview step and they don't really work well for much apart from that. So at this point I'm not interviewing with the company and all I know is that they have an interesting job ad. Considering how far from reality job ads can be I'm not going to waste hours based on one.
salty_biscuits 8y ago
We used to do C for open source stuff that we contributed to at our organization. Seemed like a good comprise because it isn't a completely futile exercise for the person going for the job.

If you're asking for C with 4.5 hours of work (as per example above) that's fine if you're paying for their time. Cheaper than a bad hire, stops you missing out on good hires who think "fuck that".

DenisM 8y ago

If C should be paid for, then should A be paid for as well? If not, why not?

reacweb 8y ago
In A both the interviewer and the interviewee are giving a similar amount of time. In C, only one is giving time. To compensate, the other should give money.
- andrewwharton 8y ago
  In C the interviewer is also spending time reviewing the assignment. Maybe not the same amount, but if you also have a handful of your current devs review it and give their feedback, the company time spent on it might not be trivial. Also there is usually more than one person sitting with the interviewee when they come in, so the company time spent is multiplied at that stage.

flukus 8y ago

> Cheaper than a bad hire, stops you missing out on good hires who think "fuck that". Does it? If I have a developer job then I'm paid well and don't really care about the money which I have enough of, I care about the time which I have very little of. If you're in the top 0.01% of companies to work for (and the applicant knows that) then it's probably a worthwhile time investment, but for the other 99.99% it's a waste.

AFNobody 8y ago
If you are interviewing with a company, asking you to spend time in exchange for money is reasonable. If you feel you are above that exchange, personally, that is an effective filter for a potential problem employee.
- flukus 8y ago
  > If you are interviewing with a company, asking you to spend time in exchange for money is reasonable. These tests are typically a pre-interview step and they don't really work well for much apart from that. So at this point I'm not interviewing with the company and all I know is that they have an interesting job ad. Considering how far from reality job ads can be I'm not going to waste hours based on one.

salty_biscuits 8y ago

We used to do C for open source stuff that we contributed to at our organization. Seemed like a good comprise because it isn't a completely futile exercise for the person going for the job.