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In late 2015 (maybe early 2016), I was interviewed by the engineering manager of a 20-to-50-person tech company for a iOS engineer role in Hong Kong. I answered
by vinceyuan 8y ago
In late 2015 (maybe early 2016), I was interviewed by the engineering manager of a 20-to-50-person tech company for a iOS engineer role in Hong Kong. I answered all tech questions well. But when I heard his last question, I knew I would not get this job. The last question is "how old are you?". I hesitated but still told him "35". He did not say anything. I know it is illegal in the US. But I was not in the US.
- idra 8y agoHong Kong is not China
- est 8y agoIn OP's case it looks pretty Chinar to me.
- vkou 8y agoHong Kong is most definitely China. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_of_sovereignty_over_Hong_Kong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_of_sovereignty_over_H...
- lvturner 8y agoHong Kong is most definitely not China. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_country,_two_systems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_country,_two_systems
- oldcynic 8y agoThey've reneged on many aspects of that since handover.
- lvturner 8y agoGranted, but put quite simply, I have residency in HK but still need a visa to visit mainland China. Also the capital controls are entirely different. It's naive to say they are the same country when they are demonstrably different in terms of culture and laws - despite their many similarities.
- aquadrop 8y agoEven your link says "one country" :)
- lvturner 8y agoThe key was "two systems" which I think is the more relevant part to the article ;)
- amrx101 8y agoWill be in future.
- yesforwhat 8y agoThen Hong Kong will no longer be Hong Kong.
- chaostheory 8y agoYes it's already a part of China. However like Taiwan, the culture is different. While HK shares a lot of traits with the mainland, it's culturally still closer to the West. That said things change over time.
- gcb0 8y agoits only slowing being invaded by china :)
- josh_fyi 8y agoThat is quite legal in the US. Discrimination from age 40 is illegal. Firing every employee at age 39 (Logan's Run!) is totally within the law.
- EgoIncarnate 8y agoMany startups are exempt from even that. The Federal Age Discrimination in Employment Act applies to companies with 20 or more employees. Some states have stricter rules (5 employees or more for the California Fair Employment and Housing Act).
- 49bc 8y agoCompanies here are so litigation-averse that they’d never fire someone outright for being too old. They have an entire department (HR) to help build a solid, believable paper trail for firing them for “performance issues”.
- forrestthewoods 8y ago> The Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA) protects certain applicants and employees 40 years of age and older from discrimination on the basis of age in hiring, promotion, discharge, compensation, or terms, conditions or privileges of employment. Are you maybe referring to a different federal law?
- icebraining 8y agoI'm no lawyer, but couldn't one allege that policy has a disparate impact on older workers?
- geomark 8y agoOnly slightly related...well OT as heck: VP of Sales at a tech company in San Jose was interviewing me for a field technical management job. The final question he asked was "Do you play golf?" I answered truthfully "No" and thought to myself, that is illegal as hell but it looks like I'm not getting the job. He replied "Learn!".
- bdowling 8y agoThere’s nothing illegal about only hiring people who like to play golf. (Unless you think that’s a proxy for being white or male or Protestant.)
- rayiner 8y agoUnder US labor law, facially non-discriminatory policies can be the basis of a discrimination suit if they have a disparate impact on protected classes. If there is a disparate impact, the employer must show a valid business reason for the requirement.
- geomark 8y agoThat's the rub about the seemingly innocent golf question. What if someone has a physical handicap that prevents them from playing golf but in no way affects their ability to perform the duties of the job they are interviewing for?
- Trundle 8y agoHuh? Where is golf status a protected class?
- DoofusOfDeath 8y agoBecause of the handicap.
- Clubber 8y agoHah. Good one. I just lol'd at work.