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Pfffft. Yeah there's "nothing stopping you" except for everything. You can't get rid of the window manager, the Finder or the Dock. Heck, you can't even stop F

Pfffft. Yeah there's "nothing stopping you" except for everything. You can't get rid of the window manager, the Finder or the Dock. Heck, you can't even stop Finder from running in any supported way and even if you manage to, you can't replace Finder in every program to open or save files. You can't replace the Dock because Apple won't let you modify a private API for describing available screen space. Every Dock replacement has the same bug - windows end up behind the replacement dock when you maximize them. Even Microsoft gives you hooks to change things like the Taskbar, Explorer and so on where Apple gives you nothing.

scarface74 8y ago
Quitting the Finder: https://www.howtogeek.com/259378/how-to-quit-the-finder-in-os-x/ https://www.howtogeek.com/259378/how-to-quit-the-finder-in-o... Run x11 on the Mac. https://www.xquartz.org/ https://www.xquartz.org/ I found the link from an Apple support page. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201341 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201341 The Finder isn't used to "save files". But alternate file managers... https://lifehacker.com/5824343/the-best-alternative-file-browser-for-mac https://lifehacker.com/5824343/the-best-alternative-file-bro...
- hungerstrike 8y ago
  Yes thanks, that's what I was laughing about. You can attempt to run such a system, but since nobody does (and for good reason) all your tinkering will be in vain and you'll have a fairly useless system. Enjoy that! You can't actually tinker with the things that you want to use though, can you? Nope. Again, Microsofts offerings simply outclass Apple here - they've got hooks to let you modify just about every interface in Windows whereas with Apple you have to resort to basically re-building your entire OS for the right to tinker. Apples offerings are simply not tinker-friendly and everybody knows this, notwithstanding desperate attempts from the Apple-faithful to disagree. > The Finder isn't used to "save files". Yes it is. The GUI components for every "save file" operation in almost every existing Mac app are absolutely sourced from and tightly integrated with Finder.
  - scarface74 8y ago
    So I just showed you how you could do it with links and because "no one does it" that means it "can't be done". Have you thought that the reason "no one does it" is because most people don't want to muck with their systems and just want to get stuff done? You want to "tinker with the kernel" but you are complaining about modify a plist?
    - hungerstrike 8y ago
      I didn't say that I wanted to tinker with the kernel. I want to tinker with the Finder, the Dock and the actual window manager that everybody uses, not XQuartz which nobody uses. You showed that in order to tinker with Apples stuff you have to completely replace Apples stuff. That's hilarious!

scarface74 8y ago

Quitting the Finder: https://www.howtogeek.com/259378/how-to-quit-the-finder-in-os-x/ https://www.howtogeek.com/259378/how-to-quit-the-finder-in-o... Run x11 on the Mac. https://www.xquartz.org/ https://www.xquartz.org/ I found the link from an Apple support page. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201341 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201341 The Finder isn't used to "save files". But alternate file managers... https://lifehacker.com/5824343/the-best-alternative-file-browser-for-mac https://lifehacker.com/5824343/the-best-alternative-file-bro...

hungerstrike 8y ago
Yes thanks, that's what I was laughing about. You can attempt to run such a system, but since nobody does (and for good reason) all your tinkering will be in vain and you'll have a fairly useless system. Enjoy that! You can't actually tinker with the things that you want to use though, can you? Nope. Again, Microsofts offerings simply outclass Apple here - they've got hooks to let you modify just about every interface in Windows whereas with Apple you have to resort to basically re-building your entire OS for the right to tinker. Apples offerings are simply not tinker-friendly and everybody knows this, notwithstanding desperate attempts from the Apple-faithful to disagree. > The Finder isn't used to "save files". Yes it is. The GUI components for every "save file" operation in almost every existing Mac app are absolutely sourced from and tightly integrated with Finder.
- scarface74 8y ago
  So I just showed you how you could do it with links and because "no one does it" that means it "can't be done". Have you thought that the reason "no one does it" is because most people don't want to muck with their systems and just want to get stuff done? You want to "tinker with the kernel" but you are complaining about modify a plist?
  - hungerstrike 8y ago
    I didn't say that I wanted to tinker with the kernel. I want to tinker with the Finder, the Dock and the actual window manager that everybody uses, not XQuartz which nobody uses. You showed that in order to tinker with Apples stuff you have to completely replace Apples stuff. That's hilarious!