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Because I got tired of the blue screens of death, and despite the MBP being way over priced it does one thing very well... it works 99% of the time. Plus it loo

Because I got tired of the blue screens of death, and despite the MBP being way over priced it does one thing very well... it works 99% of the time. Plus it looks cool, if you care about that sort of thing.

Scramblejams 8y ago
The downvotes for you are puzzling. At work I compile a large project in VS2017 multiple times per day, and my machine will intermittently bluescreen during the compile. Happens to a number of my coworkers as well. W10 has come a long, long way since the unstable foundations of its forebears, but my personal experience with it still includes more crashes than I can write off as flaky hardware/drivers or mere chance.
- WaltPurvis 8y ago
  Anecdotes are fun. Here's mine: It's been literally 7 or 8 years since I've had a Windows machine (desktop or laptop) blue screen on me. (Although I admit I've primarily used a Mac the past couple years, so maybe Window 10 has degraded recently.)
- actsasbuffoon 8y ago
  Agreed, Windows 10 is still a mess. I have constant issues with stability. My latest fun issue is that my gaming desktop won't install OS updates. It knows there are updates available, but when I tell it to install, the progress bar never progresses. I've tried restarting multiple times, but it makes no difference. I thought maybe I just needed to let it run for a while. It's been running for 3 days now, and the progress bar still hasn't moved. I guess I'm probably going to have to either reformat the machine, or decide that I don't want OS updates any longer.
  - Scramblejams 8y ago
    Yep. I ranted about this in another thread recently so I won't rehash (much), but part of what I dislike about Windows is that its excessive complexity creates a gulf between the quick fix and "welp, time to reformat." And thanks to the need for backward compatibility, I doubt it will ever get better.
cuckcuckspruce 8y ago
I have a mac mini for my study desktop (use it to shell into machines to develop, watch YouTube tech videos, and listen to music with iTunes from my NAS), but every time I think about buying an MBP I remember the horror stories from watching Louis Rossmann's videos on YouTube and think "Do I really want to drop almost $2,000 on a device that is going to break down because it's more slick than it is well constructed?"
mrguyorama 8y ago
I'll never understand the "stability" argument for macs. I have a gaming desktop at home that I also use for personal projects. In a decade, I have had zero bluescreens, despite AMD drivers not being the happiest all the time, and doing sketchy things with homemade code that I possibly shouldn't. Meanwhile, my OSX work laptop needs to be restarted multiple times a week, or the wifi gets temperamental and programs somehow start to accumulate and eat all the available CPU and RAM, it restarts itself periodically with zero warning (thank goodness for the "open everything up exactly how it was" feature, pretty much necessary at this point, compare that with Windows, where I'm glad for the once a month forced restart because otherwise I'd never close out of way too much software), and has had several kernel panics just this year, which are caused by OSX itself according to the dump. It regularly struggles to do basic things, like dismiss the screensaver on wakeup. It truly is a finicky and pathetic system to me, and the only reason I'm okay with using it is that it has SLIGHTLY better support for POSIX than Windows 7, and because I'm required by my work to use it.
- umanwizard 8y ago
  > despite AMD drivers not being the happiest all the time This is something you will not have to even think about on a healthy mac, as long as the hardware is not damaged in some way. > Meanwhile, my OSX work laptop needs to be restarted multiple times a week, or the wifi gets temperamental and programs somehow start to accumulate and eat all the available CPU and RAM, it restarts itself periodically with zero warning (...) , and has had several kernel panics just this year, which are caused by OSX itself according to the dump. Your mac has hardware problems -- ask for a new one, if possible.
  - FabHK 8y ago
    I had lots of inexplicable failures and kernel panics, and ran the diagnostic (hold D during startup), got an error code, brought it in, and got a new motherboard. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201257 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201257 Runs mostly ok now, though still a pretty crap machine in my view (keyboard, 4 hours battery life (less if you do any actual work), terrible WiFi (2.4 GHz) when any dongle is plugged in (and with 2 ports, one of which is for charging, you need dongles), etc.).

Scramblejams 8y ago

The downvotes for you are puzzling. At work I compile a large project in VS2017 multiple times per day, and my machine will intermittently bluescreen during the compile. Happens to a number of my coworkers as well. W10 has come a long, long way since the unstable foundations of its forebears, but my personal experience with it still includes more crashes than I can write off as flaky hardware/drivers or mere chance.

WaltPurvis 8y ago
Anecdotes are fun. Here's mine: It's been literally 7 or 8 years since I've had a Windows machine (desktop or laptop) blue screen on me. (Although I admit I've primarily used a Mac the past couple years, so maybe Window 10 has degraded recently.)
actsasbuffoon 8y ago
Agreed, Windows 10 is still a mess. I have constant issues with stability. My latest fun issue is that my gaming desktop won't install OS updates. It knows there are updates available, but when I tell it to install, the progress bar never progresses. I've tried restarting multiple times, but it makes no difference. I thought maybe I just needed to let it run for a while. It's been running for 3 days now, and the progress bar still hasn't moved. I guess I'm probably going to have to either reformat the machine, or decide that I don't want OS updates any longer.
- Scramblejams 8y ago
  Yep. I ranted about this in another thread recently so I won't rehash (much), but part of what I dislike about Windows is that its excessive complexity creates a gulf between the quick fix and "welp, time to reformat." And thanks to the need for backward compatibility, I doubt it will ever get better.

cuckcuckspruce 8y ago

I have a mac mini for my study desktop (use it to shell into machines to develop, watch YouTube tech videos, and listen to music with iTunes from my NAS), but every time I think about buying an MBP I remember the horror stories from watching Louis Rossmann's videos on YouTube and think "Do I really want to drop almost $2,000 on a device that is going to break down because it's more slick than it is well constructed?"

mrguyorama 8y ago

I'll never understand the "stability" argument for macs. I have a gaming desktop at home that I also use for personal projects. In a decade, I have had zero bluescreens, despite AMD drivers not being the happiest all the time, and doing sketchy things with homemade code that I possibly shouldn't. Meanwhile, my OSX work laptop needs to be restarted multiple times a week, or the wifi gets temperamental and programs somehow start to accumulate and eat all the available CPU and RAM, it restarts itself periodically with zero warning (thank goodness for the "open everything up exactly how it was" feature, pretty much necessary at this point, compare that with Windows, where I'm glad for the once a month forced restart because otherwise I'd never close out of way too much software), and has had several kernel panics just this year, which are caused by OSX itself according to the dump. It regularly struggles to do basic things, like dismiss the screensaver on wakeup. It truly is a finicky and pathetic system to me, and the only reason I'm okay with using it is that it has SLIGHTLY better support for POSIX than Windows 7, and because I'm required by my work to use it.

umanwizard 8y ago
> despite AMD drivers not being the happiest all the time This is something you will not have to even think about on a healthy mac, as long as the hardware is not damaged in some way. > Meanwhile, my OSX work laptop needs to be restarted multiple times a week, or the wifi gets temperamental and programs somehow start to accumulate and eat all the available CPU and RAM, it restarts itself periodically with zero warning (...) , and has had several kernel panics just this year, which are caused by OSX itself according to the dump. Your mac has hardware problems -- ask for a new one, if possible.
- FabHK 8y ago
  I had lots of inexplicable failures and kernel panics, and ran the diagnostic (hold D during startup), got an error code, brought it in, and got a new motherboard. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201257 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201257 Runs mostly ok now, though still a pretty crap machine in my view (keyboard, 4 hours battery life (less if you do any actual work), terrible WiFi (2.4 GHz) when any dongle is plugged in (and with 2 ports, one of which is for charging, you need dongles), etc.).