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My position is to take care of that person, like weve been taken care of visiting while other countries, but trying to avoid the illegal/undocumented immigrant
by rogerb 8y ago
My position is to take care of that person, like weve been taken care of visiting while other countries, but trying to avoid the illegal/undocumented immigrant strawman for clarity.
- SamReidHughes 8y agoOkay, but what about people in other countries? Why don't we have an obligation to help them, to?
- rogerb 8y agoThat's a different question which is outside of the scope of healthcare in the US IMO.
- mistermann 8y agoThe underlying reasoning for universal healthcare is based on a principle, does this principle end at the US border, which I'm told is just some arbitrary, meaningless line right? If it's not clear, my tongue is firmly in my cheek as I say that, but where it isn't in my cheek is when I'm telling you some people don't just buy your simple pro-universal-healthcare argument wholesale, especially when you refuse to defend it against valid questions like this.
- rogerb 8y agoI live in the US and I pay taxes in the US, so yes - healthcare for US citizens/residents paid for by US/citizens residents ends at the borders. If there is a better, more efficient system that is morally right (i.e. provides basic healthcare for it's citizens) than universal healthcare I would like someone to propose it ?
- SamReidHughes 8y agoThat's a nice saccade you've made from "you are a terrible person" to "healthcare ... ends at the borders." Universal healthcare would be great if it was cheap and covered everything.
- rogerb 8y agoIt might be a little hard for you to understand - but on the other side of the USA is... another country ! And they are free to do whatever they want, which in the case of developed countries is universal health care !
- mistermann 8y agoAh, the confidence of a young liberal, it fills the heart with hope ! I'll offer some advice, although I doubt you think you have much more to learn in life. If you're walking around looking for donations or support towards a cause, perhaps mocking those who may not share the identical philosophical beliefs as you isn't the optimum approach.
- mistermann 8y agoWhy is it morally right for me to contribute to healthcare for someone who lives in America but doesn't pay taxes, but not morally right to pay for someone who lives in a different country and doesn't pay taxes?
- SamReidHughes 8y agoSo let's talk about healthcare in the US. Don't Britons have a moral obligation to get taxed and that money get sent to the US to pay for the US healthcare system?
- Clubber 8y agoI would say yes. I've read where the UK does this as do other countries. Of course, any mass migration for free health care would bankrupt us, so we would need some sort of protection against that.
- burkaman 8y agoWe do, if we can. We are not obligated to try impossible things, like caring for everyone in the world.