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I think I would disagree with the notion of teaching about intellectual property by stealing somebody's intellectual property. For a company to publicly express

I think I would disagree with the notion of teaching about intellectual property by stealing somebody's intellectual property. For a company to publicly express "we are about doing the right thing", I would hope that wouldn't include conducting "proper business" of taking advantage of people. I would think "doing the right thing" would more along the lines of "great idea you have there, let's help you get that patent and work together to get it market".

edejong 8y ago
You don’t steal it when someone gives it away and is careless with it.
- rasz 8y ago
  How do you call patenting public domain research (ANS)?
  - edejong 8y ago
    Opportunity for proving prior art?
- paul7986 8y ago
  Umm it’s you who has no money vs. multi-billion dollar Google who out of nowhere is chasing you saying would you consider selling your tech to us? Let’s meet to discuss. I filed a provisional patent before the meeting and later a non-provisional. I chased money and those who have strong ties to Google and their competitors in terms of working together, investment, etc. with no success. I’ve been at this for 11 years. So the biggest company on the planet is pursuing you for your blood/sweat/tears/dreams(all u ever wanted to do was to create amazing technology for a living and u believe you have a knack for it)... what else would you have done? Again your one dude with no money or strong connections vs. Google. A company whose motto is Do No Evil!
  - edejong 8y ago
    The relative size or your beliefs on technical prowess does not add an ounce to your right on calling the company evil. Personally, I feel that calling a company evil because it exploits ignorance, carelessness, impatience and greed (and it has a track history of doing that) is in itself an unethical act.
    - paul7986 8y ago
      How am I ignorant .. is there a class that teaches you how to get powerful ppl behind you when your talent is innovation vs. people skills? Is there a class that teaches you how to make a meeting with the biggest company on the planet a win for you? It’s all about money and getting those with it to get behind you. That’s not my strong suit .. innovation is. As you can read above the sheer disregard for my tech partner and I was downright wrong .. rude... disrespectful and more negative adjectives ... all done at the hands of a company whose motto is don’t be evil. Kicking us in the face and then getting a patent runs in the total opposite direction from their motto! Overall my dream has been to build amazing technology and be paid well for it. Not greedy .. nor impatient I’ve been at this for 11 years . Overal We’d love to have worked with Google! Love to hear how non ignorant you who also has no money or connections to google would have handled it.
      - edejong 8y ago
        > is there a class that teaches you... No, there isn't really. But I do know that going into the bowels of one of the most powerful companies in the world requires due diligence. Preparation. Patience. For example, start with hiring an IP lawyer. Write down exactly what you want to divulge and what stays secret. Draw a strong line between intellectual property and functional application. Personally, I would never do business directly with Google, since I am simply not qualified enough. If I can afford it, I would hire a representative. If I cannot, I would probably simply refrain from doing business. There are other companies and investors out there. Patience: I think you're mixing it up with perseverance. Both are laudable, but the former is what needs to be expressed when a big multi-billion dollar company knocks on your door. You had a patent application pending! You knew from the start that it was your innovation they were after. When they invite you, they'll be interested in it tomorrow, in two months or a year from now. But there is another thing I find interesting. If you work at something for 11 years, how can you possibly divulge everything in one meeting? Anyways, from someone who was careless with his own ideas and innovations in the past, I know how hard it is to get over this. Value your brain, not your things :) Lastly, I'd like to add that being good at innovation is definitely not enough to make a marketable product. In my opinion, innovation happens at the crossroads of intellectual thought and business sense.

edejong 8y ago

You don’t steal it when someone gives it away and is careless with it.

rasz 8y ago
How do you call patenting public domain research (ANS)?
- edejong 8y ago
  Opportunity for proving prior art?
paul7986 8y ago
Umm it’s you who has no money vs. multi-billion dollar Google who out of nowhere is chasing you saying would you consider selling your tech to us? Let’s meet to discuss. I filed a provisional patent before the meeting and later a non-provisional. I chased money and those who have strong ties to Google and their competitors in terms of working together, investment, etc. with no success. I’ve been at this for 11 years. So the biggest company on the planet is pursuing you for your blood/sweat/tears/dreams(all u ever wanted to do was to create amazing technology for a living and u believe you have a knack for it)... what else would you have done? Again your one dude with no money or strong connections vs. Google. A company whose motto is Do No Evil!
- edejong 8y ago
  The relative size or your beliefs on technical prowess does not add an ounce to your right on calling the company evil. Personally, I feel that calling a company evil because it exploits ignorance, carelessness, impatience and greed (and it has a track history of doing that) is in itself an unethical act.
  - paul7986 8y ago
    How am I ignorant .. is there a class that teaches you how to get powerful ppl behind you when your talent is innovation vs. people skills? Is there a class that teaches you how to make a meeting with the biggest company on the planet a win for you? It’s all about money and getting those with it to get behind you. That’s not my strong suit .. innovation is. As you can read above the sheer disregard for my tech partner and I was downright wrong .. rude... disrespectful and more negative adjectives ... all done at the hands of a company whose motto is don’t be evil. Kicking us in the face and then getting a patent runs in the total opposite direction from their motto! Overall my dream has been to build amazing technology and be paid well for it. Not greedy .. nor impatient I’ve been at this for 11 years . Overal We’d love to have worked with Google! Love to hear how non ignorant you who also has no money or connections to google would have handled it.
    - edejong 8y ago
      > is there a class that teaches you... No, there isn't really. But I do know that going into the bowels of one of the most powerful companies in the world requires due diligence. Preparation. Patience. For example, start with hiring an IP lawyer. Write down exactly what you want to divulge and what stays secret. Draw a strong line between intellectual property and functional application. Personally, I would never do business directly with Google, since I am simply not qualified enough. If I can afford it, I would hire a representative. If I cannot, I would probably simply refrain from doing business. There are other companies and investors out there. Patience: I think you're mixing it up with perseverance. Both are laudable, but the former is what needs to be expressed when a big multi-billion dollar company knocks on your door. You had a patent application pending! You knew from the start that it was your innovation they were after. When they invite you, they'll be interested in it tomorrow, in two months or a year from now. But there is another thing I find interesting. If you work at something for 11 years, how can you possibly divulge everything in one meeting? Anyways, from someone who was careless with his own ideas and innovations in the past, I know how hard it is to get over this. Value your brain, not your things :) Lastly, I'd like to add that being good at innovation is definitely not enough to make a marketable product. In my opinion, innovation happens at the crossroads of intellectual thought and business sense.