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I can kind of see why. There is a lot of convenience in being able to log into any computer and access your mail. Plus Gmail search beats the search in native

by collyw 9y ago

I can kind of see why. There is a lot of convenience in being able to log into any computer and access your mail. Plus Gmail search beats the search in native clients most of the time.

jacquesm 9y ago
Mobile Imap clients are a thing. And gmail isn't your mail, it's Google's mail. A mailserver that you host yourself is your mail.
- theyinwhy 9y ago
  This is often heard but I don't think there is legal justification for it. It is pretty clear that it is your data, hosted on someone else's server that you pay by looking at ads and allowing them to read your mail. It is your mail nevertheless. Additionally, if we are really picky, only mail written by you is your mail. All mail received is normally copyrighted by someone else and belongs to the sender or/and his/her company. Very strictly speaking in some countries you are not legally allowed to forward someone else's mail if it bears any artistic value. Yes I know, it is off topic. But it was fun, thanks for the spark!
  - cerberusss 9y ago
    > All mail received is normally copyrighted by someone else and belongs to the sender or/and his/her company Source please? Shouldn't there be a creative aspect about it? Which is probably not the case for lots of emails.
    - theyinwhy 9y ago
      Correct, that's why I wrote this at the end if the paragraph: >[...] if it bears any artistic value. Source: As this depends on the country you live in you would have to look up your country's copyright law and see if it's true for your country.
htgb 9y ago
I agree regarding the convenience, but I'm not impressed at all by the Gmail search function. It doesn't even have any fuzzy matching – which seems crazy given what company we're talking about.
tjoff 9y ago
Gmail search is without doubt the worst search I've ever come across. It doesn't even return all the results. Why do you think it is good? There is nothing that says that you can't have both web and native mail clients.
- collyw 9y ago
  It works for almost everything I try to find. It might take a few tries, but I can usually find the mail I was looking for. Usually when I change jobs I have had another non Gmail account but I have never found the search as good. I have an outlook web client at work and that doesn't find things. Maybe its me being dumb and remembering different phrases from what is actually stored, but I almost always manage to finds what i am looking for in Gmail. I can't say the same with other clients. Its just a pity that I have to give up my privacy to Google for it.
  - tjoff 9y ago
    Well, it can't even find all instances of a single exact ID. It's what you'd expect of a cloud service though, they really don't want to go through all of that data. Any native client though will just go at it and return proper results.
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Using a native email client 99% of the time doesn't prevent you from signing in to a web version when you're away from your machine...

by collyw 9y ago

I can kind of see why. There is a lot of convenience in being able to log into any computer and access your mail. Plus Gmail search beats the search in native clients most of the time.

jacquesm 9y ago

Mobile Imap clients are a thing. And gmail isn't your mail, it's Google's mail. A mailserver that you host yourself is your mail.

theyinwhy 9y ago
This is often heard but I don't think there is legal justification for it. It is pretty clear that it is your data, hosted on someone else's server that you pay by looking at ads and allowing them to read your mail. It is your mail nevertheless. Additionally, if we are really picky, only mail written by you is your mail. All mail received is normally copyrighted by someone else and belongs to the sender or/and his/her company. Very strictly speaking in some countries you are not legally allowed to forward someone else's mail if it bears any artistic value. Yes I know, it is off topic. But it was fun, thanks for the spark!
- cerberusss 9y ago
  > All mail received is normally copyrighted by someone else and belongs to the sender or/and his/her company Source please? Shouldn't there be a creative aspect about it? Which is probably not the case for lots of emails.
  - theyinwhy 9y ago
    Correct, that's why I wrote this at the end if the paragraph: >[...] if it bears any artistic value. Source: As this depends on the country you live in you would have to look up your country's copyright law and see if it's true for your country.

htgb 9y ago

I agree regarding the convenience, but I'm not impressed at all by the Gmail search function. It doesn't even have any fuzzy matching – which seems crazy given what company we're talking about.

tjoff 9y ago

Gmail search is without doubt the worst search I've ever come across. It doesn't even return all the results. Why do you think it is good? There is nothing that says that you can't have both web and native mail clients.

collyw 9y ago
It works for almost everything I try to find. It might take a few tries, but I can usually find the mail I was looking for. Usually when I change jobs I have had another non Gmail account but I have never found the search as good. I have an outlook web client at work and that doesn't find things. Maybe its me being dumb and remembering different phrases from what is actually stored, but I almost always manage to finds what i am looking for in Gmail. I can't say the same with other clients. Its just a pity that I have to give up my privacy to Google for it.
- tjoff 9y ago
  Well, it can't even find all instances of a single exact ID. It's what you'd expect of a cloud service though, they really don't want to go through all of that data. Any native client though will just go at it and return proper results.

favorited 9y ago

Using a native email client 99% of the time doesn't prevent you from signing in to a web version when you're away from your machine...