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So is flying to Silicon Valley per an invite from Google regarding your blood/sweat/tears/dreams to discuss supposedly buying your app/technology only to then b

So is flying to Silicon Valley per an invite from Google regarding your blood/sweat/tears/dreams to discuss supposedly buying your app/technology only to then be baited by them in the meeting for your secret sauce which you divulge because this is your dream ... once divulged they kick you out and say the race is on. Is that ethical... moral... just? That's what happened to me in April 2013 when I was invited and met with Motorola/Google ATAP(https://ryanspahn.com/my-google-NDA-experience.html https://ryanspahn.com/my-google-NDA-experience.html) re: my dream/blood/sweat/tears. Also they recently were awarded a patent for the exact same thing I created/met them about(https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/google-patent-speaker-m... https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/google-patent-speaker-m...). Don't be evil ... HA

ocdtrekkie 9y ago
While I sympathize with your concern, and agree with you, pasting the same comment repeatedly in a thread is likely to get you slapped by the admins. They don't like it, and most of us need not read the same comment three or more times.
edejong 9y ago
Link doesn’t work. Anyways: is it evil to teach something about intellectual property? You failed to properly prepare the meeting, hire a lawyer and patent your invention. What exactly did you think you were selling to them? Don’t be evil doesn’t entail: don’t conduct proper business.
- talmand 9y ago
  I think I would disagree with the notion of teaching about intellectual property by stealing somebody's intellectual property. For a company to publicly express "we are about doing the right thing", I would hope that wouldn't include conducting "proper business" of taking advantage of people. I would think "doing the right thing" would more along the lines of "great idea you have there, let's help you get that patent and work together to get it market".
  - edejong 9y ago
    You don’t steal it when someone gives it away and is careless with it.
    - rasz 9y ago
      How do you call patenting public domain research (ANS)?
      - edejong 9y ago
        Opportunity for proving prior art?
    - paul7986 9y ago
      Umm it’s you who has no money vs. multi-billion dollar Google who out of nowhere is chasing you saying would you consider selling your tech to us? Let’s meet to discuss. I filed a provisional patent before the meeting and later a non-provisional. I chased money and those who have strong ties to Google and their competitors in terms of working together, investment, etc. with no success. I’ve been at this for 11 years. So the biggest company on the planet is pursuing you for your blood/sweat/tears/dreams(all u ever wanted to do was to create amazing technology for a living and u believe you have a knack for it)... what else would you have done? Again your one dude with no money or strong connections vs. Google. A company whose motto is Do No Evil!
      - edejong 9y ago
        The relative size or your beliefs on technical prowess does not add an ounce to your right on calling the company evil. Personally, I feel that calling a company evil because it exploits ignorance, carelessness, impatience and greed (and it has a track history of doing that) is in itself an unethical act.
        paul7986 9y ago
        How am I ignorant .. is there a class that teaches you how to get powerful ppl behind you when your talent is innovation vs. people skills? Is there a class that teaches you how to make a meeting with the biggest company on the planet a win for you? It’s all about money and getting those with it to get behind you. That’s not my strong suit .. innovation is. As you can read above the sheer disregard for my tech partner and I was downright wrong .. rude... disrespectful and more negative adjectives ... all done at the hands of a company whose motto is don’t be evil. Kicking us in the face and then getting a patent runs in the total opposite direction from their motto! Overall my dream has been to build amazing technology and be paid well for it. Not greedy .. nor impatient I’ve been at this for 11 years . Overal We’d love to have worked with Google! Love to hear how non ignorant you who also has no money or connections to google would have handled it.

ocdtrekkie 9y ago

While I sympathize with your concern, and agree with you, pasting the same comment repeatedly in a thread is likely to get you slapped by the admins. They don't like it, and most of us need not read the same comment three or more times.

edejong 9y ago

Link doesn’t work. Anyways: is it evil to teach something about intellectual property? You failed to properly prepare the meeting, hire a lawyer and patent your invention. What exactly did you think you were selling to them? Don’t be evil doesn’t entail: don’t conduct proper business.

talmand 9y ago
I think I would disagree with the notion of teaching about intellectual property by stealing somebody's intellectual property. For a company to publicly express "we are about doing the right thing", I would hope that wouldn't include conducting "proper business" of taking advantage of people. I would think "doing the right thing" would more along the lines of "great idea you have there, let's help you get that patent and work together to get it market".
- edejong 9y ago
  You don’t steal it when someone gives it away and is careless with it.
  - rasz 9y ago
    How do you call patenting public domain research (ANS)?
    - edejong 9y ago
      Opportunity for proving prior art?
  - paul7986 9y ago
    Umm it’s you who has no money vs. multi-billion dollar Google who out of nowhere is chasing you saying would you consider selling your tech to us? Let’s meet to discuss. I filed a provisional patent before the meeting and later a non-provisional. I chased money and those who have strong ties to Google and their competitors in terms of working together, investment, etc. with no success. I’ve been at this for 11 years. So the biggest company on the planet is pursuing you for your blood/sweat/tears/dreams(all u ever wanted to do was to create amazing technology for a living and u believe you have a knack for it)... what else would you have done? Again your one dude with no money or strong connections vs. Google. A company whose motto is Do No Evil!
    - edejong 9y ago
      The relative size or your beliefs on technical prowess does not add an ounce to your right on calling the company evil. Personally, I feel that calling a company evil because it exploits ignorance, carelessness, impatience and greed (and it has a track history of doing that) is in itself an unethical act.
      - paul7986 9y ago
        How am I ignorant .. is there a class that teaches you how to get powerful ppl behind you when your talent is innovation vs. people skills? Is there a class that teaches you how to make a meeting with the biggest company on the planet a win for you? It’s all about money and getting those with it to get behind you. That’s not my strong suit .. innovation is. As you can read above the sheer disregard for my tech partner and I was downright wrong .. rude... disrespectful and more negative adjectives ... all done at the hands of a company whose motto is don’t be evil. Kicking us in the face and then getting a patent runs in the total opposite direction from their motto! Overall my dream has been to build amazing technology and be paid well for it. Not greedy .. nor impatient I’ve been at this for 11 years . Overal We’d love to have worked with Google! Love to hear how non ignorant you who also has no money or connections to google would have handled it.