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A recent TIFU (Today I Fucked Up) on Reddit, depending if you believe it - I'm inclined not to, described such a situation: https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comme

by joshvm 9y ago

A recent TIFU (Today I Fucked Up) on Reddit, depending if you believe it - I'm inclined not to, described such a situation: https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/8g33nv/tifu_by_plagiarizing_my_last_essay_in_college_and/ https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/8g33nv/tifu_by_plagia... They were allegedly expelled for plagiarising a 500 word essay. > She sent me to the dean with the recommendation that I be expelled. Now the dean told me I can't graduate. I spent 4 years working on an engineering degree. I have over $100,000 in loans, and I can't be hired without my degree. My life literally vanished in the matter of 20 minutes. The irony is they could have literally scrawled anything on the paper and flunked, but passed the year. Whether or not this story is true, universities certainly have grounds to expel you immediately if you're caught cheating. And if you've spent $100k on a degree that you need because of professional accreditation... those are quite high stakes.

your-nanny 9y ago
Agreed. But nothing special about it. People's lives are ruined for stupid mistakes all the time. Some of those mistakes cost a hell of a lot more too. I'm talking of course about encounters with the criminal justice system
baddox 9y ago
Aren't those the artificial high stakes we're talking about? I'm asking what inherently high-stakes situation that is preparing you for.
- always_good 9y ago
  Well, how about getting blackballed professionally? After all, surely the main upside of acing university is to get into a high-stakes position.
- joshvm 9y ago
  For a real world situation? Just look at the Google vs Uber trial. IP theft and corporate espionage is incredibly high stakes. You can presumably make a lot of money selling secrets, but if you're rumbled, that's your career over.
Buldak 9y ago
I had a classmate like this. My high school has a graduation requirement where each senior delivers a speech to the student body on a topic of their choice. At the time of his speech, it was spring and my classmate had been accepted to Princeton on a tennis scholarship--all he had to do was sit back and coast into the Ivy League. Despite this, he plagiarized his speech. The administration found out and notified Princeton, which rescinded his acceptance. (He ended up attending the local state university.)

by joshvm 9y ago

your-nanny 9y ago

Agreed. But nothing special about it. People's lives are ruined for stupid mistakes all the time. Some of those mistakes cost a hell of a lot more too. I'm talking of course about encounters with the criminal justice system

baddox 9y ago

Aren't those the artificial high stakes we're talking about? I'm asking what inherently high-stakes situation that is preparing you for.

always_good 9y ago
Well, how about getting blackballed professionally? After all, surely the main upside of acing university is to get into a high-stakes position.
joshvm 9y ago
For a real world situation? Just look at the Google vs Uber trial. IP theft and corporate espionage is incredibly high stakes. You can presumably make a lot of money selling secrets, but if you're rumbled, that's your career over.

Buldak 9y ago

I had a classmate like this. My high school has a graduation requirement where each senior delivers a speech to the student body on a topic of their choice. At the time of his speech, it was spring and my classmate had been accepted to Princeton on a tennis scholarship--all he had to do was sit back and coast into the Ivy League. Despite this, he plagiarized his speech. The administration found out and notified Princeton, which rescinded his acceptance. (He ended up attending the local state university.)