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I think it's quite clear what the point is from Signal's attempt at implementation of the theory as well as your freshly minted wiki page. That doesn't change

I think it's quite clear what the point is from Signal's attempt at implementation of the theory as well as your freshly minted wiki page. That doesn't change the dubious nature of it. Putting other valuable services at risk for a single service's gain is clearly dubious.

tonyztan 8y ago
> "your Signal" Just to be clear, I am not affiliated with Signal in any way. I am just a user. > "your freshly minted wiki page" I am a regular contributor to Wikipedia, and I created the article on "collateral freedom" in January 2017[1] when I came across the topic because it satisfied Wikipedia's notability guidelines.[2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Collateral_freedom&action=history https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Collateral_freedo... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability
- creddit 8y ago
  That was a typo (now fixed). Didn't mean to imply you were involved with Signal
- dang 8y ago
  You posted that Wikipedia link 4 times in this thread. That's a bit much, and also kind of dodgy to do without mentioning that you wrote it.
  - tonyztan 8y ago
    > "4 times in this thread. That's a bit much" Point taken, I'll be more careful in the future. > "kind of dodgy to do without mentioning that you wrote it" The article is completely neutral, cites reliable sources, has been reviewed by another editor[1], and abides by all Wikipedia policies. I do not personally gain anything from posting it here. I didn't think the fact that I initially created the article was relevant to this conversation, because for all intents and purposes, it does not make a difference.[2] The article meets Wikipedia's standards, and anyone is free to edit it subject to the applicable content policies. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=&page=Domain+fronting&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&hide_thanks_log=1&hide_patrol_log=1&hide_tag_log=1&hide_review_log=1 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&typ... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ownership_of_content https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ownership_of_content
    - dang 8y ago
      I see your point, though it still feels a bit dodgy to me, and I suspect to many other HN readers. Fortunately it's a rare and borderline case so we don't need to worry about it too much.

tonyztan 8y ago

> "your Signal" Just to be clear, I am not affiliated with Signal in any way. I am just a user. > "your freshly minted wiki page" I am a regular contributor to Wikipedia, and I created the article on "collateral freedom" in January 2017[1] when I came across the topic because it satisfied Wikipedia's notability guidelines.[2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Collateral_freedom&action=history https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Collateral_freedo... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability

creddit 8y ago
That was a typo (now fixed). Didn't mean to imply you were involved with Signal
dang 8y ago
You posted that Wikipedia link 4 times in this thread. That's a bit much, and also kind of dodgy to do without mentioning that you wrote it.
- tonyztan 8y ago
  > "4 times in this thread. That's a bit much" Point taken, I'll be more careful in the future. > "kind of dodgy to do without mentioning that you wrote it" The article is completely neutral, cites reliable sources, has been reviewed by another editor[1], and abides by all Wikipedia policies. I do not personally gain anything from posting it here. I didn't think the fact that I initially created the article was relevant to this conversation, because for all intents and purposes, it does not make a difference.[2] The article meets Wikipedia's standards, and anyone is free to edit it subject to the applicable content policies. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=&page=Domain+fronting&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&hide_thanks_log=1&hide_patrol_log=1&hide_tag_log=1&hide_review_log=1 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&typ... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ownership_of_content https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ownership_of_content
  - dang 8y ago
    I see your point, though it still feels a bit dodgy to me, and I suspect to many other HN readers. Fortunately it's a rare and borderline case so we don't need to worry about it too much.