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The conditions do change though, even if the buildings don't: you'll gradually be surrounded by different people as prices climb and climb. Perhaps, sooner or
by davidw 9y ago
The conditions do change though, even if the buildings don't: you'll gradually be surrounded by different people as prices climb and climb. Perhaps, sooner or later, they'll look down on you as the undesirable they don't want nearby.
- TomVDB 9y agoWhy do you make the assumption somebody is looking down on somebody else? It has nothing to do with the inhabitants. It's about the ugliness of these kind of buildings and everything that goes with increased density (traffic, street parking etc.)
- CyberDildonics 9y agoI'm not clear here, do you own a townhouse or do you own everything you can see from the townhouse? You don't like the 'look' of 'ugly' building? I guess you better save up for the neighboring lots.
- TomVDB 9y agoYou buy a house in a nice neighborhood with nice single family houses and well kept gardens and very little traffic. You like it that way. You pay a lot for that. You don't like it when some of those houses are replaced by an apartment complex. What is there not to understand?
- traytonwhite 9y agoThe part where the person thinks they have some right to tell others what to do with their properly-zoned property while simultaneously refusing to pay for that right?
- zapita 9y agoWoah. Someone said "all homeowners benefit from increased density in their neighborhood". Tom replied that as a homeowner he didn't feel he benefited from increased density, and explained why. He didn't tell anyone what to do. What are you so upset about?
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- dragonwriter 9y ago> All homeowners benefit when the teachers, police officers, nurses, librarians, postal workers, garbage collectors, mechanics, plumbers, construction workers, retail clerks, gym trainers, restaurant servers, hairdressers, taxi drivers, artists, etc. etc. etc. can afford to live somewhere within a reasonable commute distance. No, they don't. All homeowners don't have the same utility function. Not living near people of different socio-economic strata is a very important factor in some people's utility function. > When the only people who can afford to live within 40 miles are senior software engineers, surgeons, hedge fund quants, corporate executives, and large landowners, the whole community becomes a fake and lifeless place. The features you see as “fake and lifeless” are what many people actively desire and seek out. Aesthetics are highly subjective.
- jacobolus 9y agoEdit: nevermind, this is a stupid conversation. I would delete it if I could.
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- la6470 9y agoUnderstand your pain but it’s the market that decides at the end .
- pcwalton 9y ago> It has nothing to do with the inhabitants. No, it frequently does have to do with the inhabitants. That's why you saw Forest Hill homeowners kill an affordable housing development because "the new development would house 'severely mentally ill' and 'severely drug addicted' people" [1]. [1]: http://www.sfexaminer.com/city-pulls-funding-150-unit-forest-hill-affordable-housing-project-citing-pushback-neighbors/ http://www.sfexaminer.com/city-pulls-funding-150-unit-forest...