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They are just protecting their business, which is legit. It's not their fault that the flaws of the system where never really fixed since it's creation >150 yea

They are just protecting their business, which is legit. It's not their fault that the flaws of the system where never really fixed since it's creation >150 years ago. Copyright was never ment to work for such long times, nor were there things like franchises and trademarks when it was created. It's time for something new, something that is more balanced for everyone. But so far nobody came up with good solutions.

CodeMage 9y ago
While it might not be their fault those flaws were never fixed, it certainly is their fault that they exploited those flaws willingly and knowingly, to the detriment of the culture at large. Let's stop pretending that "they are just protecting their business" is a valid defense.
- blanderman 9y ago
  It seems to me like it kinda was their fault though: "This law, also known as the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act, Sonny Bono Act, or (derisively) the Mickey Mouse Protection Act..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act
loup-vaillant 9y ago
> They are just protecting their business, which is legit. The business is legit. The way they protect it may be legal, but it is not legit. (Not legal advice, just a moral judgement.)
- PurpleRamen 9y ago
  Not legit by your moral judgment. But moral is subjective.
  - loup-vaillant 9y ago
    I wouldn't be so sure. We humans tend to agree about what's right and wrong. Most disagreements seem to stem from divergent factual beliefs. Take a libertarian and an anarchist for instance. One will typically say owning a factory is perfectly legit, the other is more likely to see it as immoral. But that's not because they have different morals. It's because they disagree about the factual consequences of owning a factory. Resolve the factual disagreements, and most moral disputes go away.
conception 9y ago
There are good solutions and even easy ones. The simplest I've heard is just make folks pay to extend the copyright. The longer the extension the more expensive it is. Everything else falls into public domain. if Disney wants Mickey copyrighted for a hundred years, they can pay a million or ten million or whatever a year for it. If it's not worth it to them, then it should be in the public domain.
TylerE 9y ago
The solution that I've liked the best is aftera fairly short standard time period, 25 years perhaps, copyrights go to an annual renewal where the cost to renew goes up (substantially) over time. Maybe Year 26 only costs $50, but Year 100 costs $5,000,000.
lifeformed 9y ago
They are the ones that lobby to keep the flaws of the system.

CodeMage 9y ago

While it might not be their fault those flaws were never fixed, it certainly is their fault that they exploited those flaws willingly and knowingly, to the detriment of the culture at large. Let's stop pretending that "they are just protecting their business" is a valid defense.

blanderman 9y ago
It seems to me like it kinda was their fault though: "This law, also known as the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act, Sonny Bono Act, or (derisively) the Mickey Mouse Protection Act..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act

loup-vaillant 9y ago

> They are just protecting their business, which is legit. The business is legit. The way they protect it may be legal, but it is not legit. (Not legal advice, just a moral judgement.)

PurpleRamen 9y ago
Not legit by your moral judgment. But moral is subjective.
- loup-vaillant 9y ago
  I wouldn't be so sure. We humans tend to agree about what's right and wrong. Most disagreements seem to stem from divergent factual beliefs. Take a libertarian and an anarchist for instance. One will typically say owning a factory is perfectly legit, the other is more likely to see it as immoral. But that's not because they have different morals. It's because they disagree about the factual consequences of owning a factory. Resolve the factual disagreements, and most moral disputes go away.

conception 9y ago

There are good solutions and even easy ones. The simplest I've heard is just make folks pay to extend the copyright. The longer the extension the more expensive it is. Everything else falls into public domain. if Disney wants Mickey copyrighted for a hundred years, they can pay a million or ten million or whatever a year for it. If it's not worth it to them, then it should be in the public domain.

TylerE 9y ago

The solution that I've liked the best is aftera fairly short standard time period, 25 years perhaps, copyrights go to an annual renewal where the cost to renew goes up (substantially) over time. Maybe Year 26 only costs $50, but Year 100 costs $5,000,000.

lifeformed 9y ago

They are the ones that lobby to keep the flaws of the system.