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They explicitly contradict you. https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/reform/rules-business-and-organisations/application-regulation/who-does

They explicitly contradict you. https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/reform/rules-business-and-organisations/application-regulation/who-does-data-protection-law-apply_en https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/refo... The law applies to... 2. a company established outside the EU offering goods/services (paid or for free) or monitoring the behaviour of individuals in the EU. Do you have any evidence? You're doing business with EU citizens. You allow them to connect to your site. Wouldn't this operate similarly to how extradition by the US of foreign hackers work?

teamhappy 9y ago
I'm not sure what you're implying here but allowing somebody to connect to your site obviously doesn't qualify as providing goods/services. The actual legal text makes that pretty clear. "Whereas the mere accessibility of the controller's, processor's or an intermediary's website in the Union, of an email address or of other contact details, [...], is insufficient to ascertain such intention, [...]" (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32016R0679&from=EN https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...)
notyourday 9y ago
It does not matter what EU thinks. What matters if what can EU do and the answer is nothing unless your company operates in Europe > Wouldn't this operate similarly to how extradition by the US of foreign hackers work? It would not.
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vertex-four 9y ago
In most countries, extradition requires that you’re being charged with a crime in another country with something for which you could also be charged in your current country, and which carries a one year prison sentence. If you’re not breaking the law in America, you have nothing to worry about. (This is at least the case for the UK-US treaty - I’ve not verified for other treaties, but I’d highly doubt the US would agree to a treaty with anyone which requires them to extradite anyone for something that isn’t a crime in the US.) Of course, if you ignore the EU repeatedly, you’re going to be stuck if you ever want to expand to the EU, or have any assets there ever. That’s about all they can do.
donohoe 9y ago
Extradition is an extreme example and not applicable here. My whole point is, just because the EU makes a law doesn't mean it can enforce it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterritorial_jurisdiction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterritorial_jurisdiction

teamhappy 9y ago

I'm not sure what you're implying here but allowing somebody to connect to your site obviously doesn't qualify as providing goods/services. The actual legal text makes that pretty clear. "Whereas the mere accessibility of the controller's, processor's or an intermediary's website in the Union, of an email address or of other contact details, [...], is insufficient to ascertain such intention, [...]" (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32016R0679&from=EN https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...)

notyourday 9y ago

It does not matter what EU thinks. What matters if what can EU do and the answer is nothing unless your company operates in Europe > Wouldn't this operate similarly to how extradition by the US of foreign hackers work? It would not.

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vertex-four 9y ago

In most countries, extradition requires that you’re being charged with a crime in another country with something for which you could also be charged in your current country, and which carries a one year prison sentence. If you’re not breaking the law in America, you have nothing to worry about. (This is at least the case for the UK-US treaty - I’ve not verified for other treaties, but I’d highly doubt the US would agree to a treaty with anyone which requires them to extradite anyone for something that isn’t a crime in the US.) Of course, if you ignore the EU repeatedly, you’re going to be stuck if you ever want to expand to the EU, or have any assets there ever. That’s about all they can do.

donohoe 9y ago

Extradition is an extreme example and not applicable here. My whole point is, just because the EU makes a law doesn't mean it can enforce it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterritorial_jurisdiction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterritorial_jurisdiction