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FWIW, I move my family between iPhones every year and haven’t noticed any data loss. One exception to date is WeChat, for some godforsaken reason they only back

FWIW, I move my family between iPhones every year and haven’t noticed any data loss. One exception to date is WeChat, for some godforsaken reason they only back up the most recent dozen conversations or so, so if you want your entire history, you have to jump through hoops to initialize a device-to-device transfer over WiFi, which can take an entire night in worst case. Would be curious to hear what kind of data loss you have seen though?

ttflee 8y ago
Be cautious using WeChat. If the Chinese authority could retrieve something from the device, the U.S. authority must be able, too. https://www.androidheadlines.com/2018/04/confirmed-deleted-wechat-messages-can-be-retrieved-by-chinese-authorities.html https://www.androidheadlines.com/2018/04/confirmed-deleted-w...
- syntaxing 8y ago
  I'm curious how you came to this conclusion. WeChat is owned by Tencent which is heavily regulated by the Chinese Government since every company needs a Internet license to operate. It's a lot easier for the Chinese government to force Tencent to hand over the information willingly compared to the US getting the information in other ways.
- taneq 8y ago
  Why would they need to recover them from a device at all? Do they not just get chat logs bcc'd to them as a matter of course?
- aeontech 8y ago
  Oh yeah, I am under no illusion about WeChat’s privacy. It’s insanely integrated into everyday life in China though - it almost feels as if people don’t care whether they use iOS or Android there, because they use WeChat apps for everything (banking, utilities, taxi, games, payments for everything, etc) rather than native apps.
YouKnowBetter 8y ago
Stuff like: in app purshases. In app authentication. In app settings. Two "trust" to be allowed to use particlar apps as second factor. Accounts. BTW: WeChat shows the future of all (not limited to chat) apps. The governmental control included I am afraid, but man is it future rich! Personally I only use it on a dedicated phone to maintain specific relations, but it is impressive.

ttflee 8y ago

Be cautious using WeChat. If the Chinese authority could retrieve something from the device, the U.S. authority must be able, too. https://www.androidheadlines.com/2018/04/confirmed-deleted-wechat-messages-can-be-retrieved-by-chinese-authorities.html https://www.androidheadlines.com/2018/04/confirmed-deleted-w...

syntaxing 8y ago
I'm curious how you came to this conclusion. WeChat is owned by Tencent which is heavily regulated by the Chinese Government since every company needs a Internet license to operate. It's a lot easier for the Chinese government to force Tencent to hand over the information willingly compared to the US getting the information in other ways.
taneq 8y ago
Why would they need to recover them from a device at all? Do they not just get chat logs bcc'd to them as a matter of course?
aeontech 8y ago
Oh yeah, I am under no illusion about WeChat’s privacy. It’s insanely integrated into everyday life in China though - it almost feels as if people don’t care whether they use iOS or Android there, because they use WeChat apps for everything (banking, utilities, taxi, games, payments for everything, etc) rather than native apps.

YouKnowBetter 8y ago

Stuff like: in app purshases. In app authentication. In app settings. Two "trust" to be allowed to use particlar apps as second factor. Accounts. BTW: WeChat shows the future of all (not limited to chat) apps. The governmental control included I am afraid, but man is it future rich! Personally I only use it on a dedicated phone to maintain specific relations, but it is impressive.