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You are missing the point. The EU makes laws that govern - and at least try to - protect its citizens. If a document on the archive is created by a European cit

You are missing the point. The EU makes laws that govern - and at least try to - protect its citizens. If a document on the archive is created by a European citizen, then it is under EU law. That's why every company in the world right now that deals with European citizens is working on supporting GDPR. That also applies here.

soziawa 8y ago
yeah, but GDPR doesn't affect copyright.
icebraining 8y ago
Nitpick: EU residents, not citizens, as far as I understand it (the text says people "in the Union", and doesn't mention citizens at all).
donohoe 8y ago
Not quite. The EU might want that but it gets into jurisdiction. The EU cannot enforce its law on entities that are entirely US based. It can only enforce it on non-EU sites if that site has some sort of business that’s within the EU (like offices or employees).
- DanBC 8y ago
  The EU can say that some businesses are so uncompliant with GDPR that they're not able to be used by EU companies. It seems weird to chose to limit your market just because you don't want to protect user data. See also changes to "safe harbour".
  - jakeogh 8y ago
    "protect user data" is a odd way to say "force you to forget something" We are merging with our creations, and will laugh at this "AI" thing when we realize it's us. The WOGPC is really a struggle for self.
matte_black 8y ago
Sorry, but the EU has no teeth here to enforce its laws on entities that exist outside the EU. When the first purely US based company is successfully fined or shut down by the EU I’ll believe in their ability to enforce GDPR.
- SllX 8y ago
  Not GDPR-specific, but France.com had its web domain seized by France recently[1]. It was a private US-based business (not a squatter) that the government of France had actually cooperated with for years, until they suddenly decided it violated French trademark law and seized the domain. The domain itself had been in one person's possession since 1994. Enforcement of national laws is very much a thing across borders, so private businesses outside the EU are right to be apprehensive about what is going to happen as GDPR enforcement ramps up. [1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/04/france-seizes-france-com-from-man-whos-had-it-since-94-so-he-sues/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/04/france-seizes-fr...
  - matte_black 8y ago
    Any domain can be seized, it is not your property.
    - jakeogh 8y ago
      Clearly. Can we name the real DNS owner? It changed hands kinda recently...
walshemj 8y ago
But its not personal data that's being handled and the EU is quite happy with the german imprimatur and not keen on anonymous publishing in general.

soziawa 8y ago

yeah, but GDPR doesn't affect copyright.

icebraining 8y ago

Nitpick: EU residents, not citizens, as far as I understand it (the text says people "in the Union", and doesn't mention citizens at all).

donohoe 8y ago

Not quite. The EU might want that but it gets into jurisdiction. The EU cannot enforce its law on entities that are entirely US based. It can only enforce it on non-EU sites if that site has some sort of business that’s within the EU (like offices or employees).

DanBC 8y ago
The EU can say that some businesses are so uncompliant with GDPR that they're not able to be used by EU companies. It seems weird to chose to limit your market just because you don't want to protect user data. See also changes to "safe harbour".
- jakeogh 8y ago
  "protect user data" is a odd way to say "force you to forget something" We are merging with our creations, and will laugh at this "AI" thing when we realize it's us. The WOGPC is really a struggle for self.

matte_black 8y ago

Sorry, but the EU has no teeth here to enforce its laws on entities that exist outside the EU. When the first purely US based company is successfully fined or shut down by the EU I’ll believe in their ability to enforce GDPR.

SllX 8y ago
Not GDPR-specific, but France.com had its web domain seized by France recently[1]. It was a private US-based business (not a squatter) that the government of France had actually cooperated with for years, until they suddenly decided it violated French trademark law and seized the domain. The domain itself had been in one person's possession since 1994. Enforcement of national laws is very much a thing across borders, so private businesses outside the EU are right to be apprehensive about what is going to happen as GDPR enforcement ramps up. [1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/04/france-seizes-france-com-from-man-whos-had-it-since-94-so-he-sues/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/04/france-seizes-fr...
- matte_black 8y ago
  Any domain can be seized, it is not your property.
  - jakeogh 8y ago
    Clearly. Can we name the real DNS owner? It changed hands kinda recently...

walshemj 8y ago

But its not personal data that's being handled and the EU is quite happy with the german imprimatur and not keen on anonymous publishing in general.