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I'm thinking of going from android to iPhone for privacy reasons. But, whenever I hold an iPhone that list of notification puts me off, in android they are grou

I'm thinking of going from android to iPhone for privacy reasons. But, whenever I hold an iPhone that list of notification puts me off, in android they are grouped, meaning 3 new exchange mails is 1 notification, I can pull on the notification to expand the 3 and then even more for every email. Short replies can be done inline in the notification even. I use that constantly. You can also swipe away a notification group. In iOS apparently everything is one notification, that really increases the amount of work handling them significantly. I did try google-less Lineage [0], but it's pain. Installing and keeping apps up to date is more work and some apps don't have notifications. So for now I'm on lineage with the nano Gapps package. I am curious though, with android I can easily ssh into my server, and make tunnels (use it as proxy), use vnc etc. Can you also do that with iOS? [0] https://lineage.microg.org/ https://lineage.microg.org/

atl4s 9y ago
I use an app called Blink (http://www.blink.sh/ http://www.blink.sh/) on iOS to manage servers on the move, has mosh support as well for areas with spotty cell service.
- 8fingerlouie 9y ago
  I have yet to try Blink. I find it somewhat expensive. Panic makes a cheaper (SSH only) app : https://panic.com/prompt/ https://panic.com/prompt/
  - darrenf 9y ago
    Termius is free and has mosh support: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/termius/id549039908?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/termius/id549039908?mt=8 It offers in-app purchases for some subscription feature (https://www.termius.com/pricing https://www.termius.com/pricing ) but I've never needed or wanted them.
  - amdavidson 9y ago
    You can compile Blink yourself and sideload it in Xcode. https://github.com/blinksh/blink https://github.com/blinksh/blink
- eddieroger 9y ago
  I've been a Panic Prompt user for as long as it's been out, but it's always left me missing something. I wasn't aware of Blink, but plan on checking it out now.
boudin 9y ago
I don't see how Apple is better with privacy. I get it's a big part of their marketing, but it's.... marketing. Phone still comes with siri, with apps you can't remove, with location tracking. Apple cloud is, as all clouds, you giving away your data to Apple, so you end up having to trust them blindly. I know it's not part of their business model so far, but they still collect and own a lot of your data. As long as a phone comes with apps you can't remove (either if it is from google, apple or whatever manufacturer), I don't see how it can be trusted.
- ubernostrum 9y ago
  Apple is "better with privacy" because Apple's model is to have you pay for things with your money instead of with your personal data. If you really have a difficult time distinguishing any difference between Apple's and Google's business models, I don't know how to even begin explaining to you.
  - boudin 9y ago
    I'm not speaking about business model but about privacy. That's two totally different subjects. I agree on the business model part, but it doesn't make apple better than google on privacy. Apple still own a lot of your data gathered through the app installed.
    - ubernostrum 9y ago
      So don't use anything, ever, then. If you want to use a smartphone, you basically get to decide who you trust more with the device that holds a lot of your digital life: Apple or Google. I know how Apple makes its money, and I know how Google makes its money. This makes the decision very, very easy. Your argument basically is "yeah, I know one of these companies is already actively exploiting my data for profit and the other isn't, but hypothetically they might some day in the future so that means they're indistinguishable from each other today". Which makes it close to impossible to treat you as arguing honestly and in good faith.
      - 9y ago
RandallBrown 9y ago
iOS lets you reply inline on messages. Grouping notifications is something that iOS can do, but it's up to the app to do it and most don't. I don't see why you couldn't SSH into your server with the right iOS app. Not sure how easy it will be to use it as a proxy, but there are VPN apps on iOS so I imagine it's possible.
- grincho 9y ago
  iOS won't let an app keep a socket open very long once it's out of the foreground. (In generally backgrounding on iOS is unreliable. It's a double-edged sword: it keeps rogue or badly written apps from burning down your battery.) People who do a lot of SSHing generally use something like screen on a remote host. (Actually, using something like Blink and mosh seems like a better idea. See some of the comments below.)
- ascagnel_ 9y ago
  > I don't see why you couldn't SSH into your server with the right iOS app. Not sure how easy it will be to use it as a proxy, but there are VPN apps on iOS so I imagine it's possible. Prompt by Panic is the best one I've tried; I run most of my sessions inside tmux, so they persist on disconnect.

atl4s 9y ago

I use an app called Blink (http://www.blink.sh/ http://www.blink.sh/) on iOS to manage servers on the move, has mosh support as well for areas with spotty cell service.

8fingerlouie 9y ago
I have yet to try Blink. I find it somewhat expensive. Panic makes a cheaper (SSH only) app : https://panic.com/prompt/ https://panic.com/prompt/
- darrenf 9y ago
  Termius is free and has mosh support: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/termius/id549039908?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/termius/id549039908?mt=8 It offers in-app purchases for some subscription feature (https://www.termius.com/pricing https://www.termius.com/pricing ) but I've never needed or wanted them.
- amdavidson 9y ago
  You can compile Blink yourself and sideload it in Xcode. https://github.com/blinksh/blink https://github.com/blinksh/blink
eddieroger 9y ago
I've been a Panic Prompt user for as long as it's been out, but it's always left me missing something. I wasn't aware of Blink, but plan on checking it out now.

boudin 9y ago

I don't see how Apple is better with privacy. I get it's a big part of their marketing, but it's.... marketing. Phone still comes with siri, with apps you can't remove, with location tracking. Apple cloud is, as all clouds, you giving away your data to Apple, so you end up having to trust them blindly. I know it's not part of their business model so far, but they still collect and own a lot of your data. As long as a phone comes with apps you can't remove (either if it is from google, apple or whatever manufacturer), I don't see how it can be trusted.

ubernostrum 9y ago
Apple is "better with privacy" because Apple's model is to have you pay for things with your money instead of with your personal data. If you really have a difficult time distinguishing any difference between Apple's and Google's business models, I don't know how to even begin explaining to you.
- boudin 9y ago
  I'm not speaking about business model but about privacy. That's two totally different subjects. I agree on the business model part, but it doesn't make apple better than google on privacy. Apple still own a lot of your data gathered through the app installed.
  - ubernostrum 9y ago
    So don't use anything, ever, then. If you want to use a smartphone, you basically get to decide who you trust more with the device that holds a lot of your digital life: Apple or Google. I know how Apple makes its money, and I know how Google makes its money. This makes the decision very, very easy. Your argument basically is "yeah, I know one of these companies is already actively exploiting my data for profit and the other isn't, but hypothetically they might some day in the future so that means they're indistinguishable from each other today". Which makes it close to impossible to treat you as arguing honestly and in good faith.
    - 9y ago

RandallBrown 9y ago

iOS lets you reply inline on messages. Grouping notifications is something that iOS can do, but it's up to the app to do it and most don't. I don't see why you couldn't SSH into your server with the right iOS app. Not sure how easy it will be to use it as a proxy, but there are VPN apps on iOS so I imagine it's possible.

grincho 9y ago
iOS won't let an app keep a socket open very long once it's out of the foreground. (In generally backgrounding on iOS is unreliable. It's a double-edged sword: it keeps rogue or badly written apps from burning down your battery.) People who do a lot of SSHing generally use something like screen on a remote host. (Actually, using something like Blink and mosh seems like a better idea. See some of the comments below.)
ascagnel_ 9y ago
> I don't see why you couldn't SSH into your server with the right iOS app. Not sure how easy it will be to use it as a proxy, but there are VPN apps on iOS so I imagine it's possible. Prompt by Panic is the best one I've tried; I run most of my sessions inside tmux, so they persist on disconnect.