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I have an iPhone SE because it has a headphone jack. But if the SE 2 doesn't have a headphone jack then this will be my last iPhone. My son wants to replace h

I have an iPhone SE because it has a headphone jack. But if the SE 2 doesn't have a headphone jack then this will be my last iPhone. My son wants to replace his iPhone, he's just waiting to see if the SE 2 has a headphone jack as well, or he will be switching to Android. Some of us like being able to charge our phone and use it to listen to music in our cars using the AUX input of our car stereos. Plus have a wider choice of headphones that don't require constant charging. And No, a dongle to get lost or broken is not an acceptable compromise.

andreif 8y ago
I own iPhone 5, which is not getting iOS updates anymore. Still works ok though, but the main issue I have with that design is it gets dust on the camera lenses inside the phone case (I don't use extra case). I have replaced it twice in the Apple Store because of the dust, but the last time my 3-month warranty expired before I got sufficient amount of it. Then I bought a repair kit to clean it but managed to crack the glass opening the case, not much but annoying. And in a few weeks there was dust on the lenses again. So I decided to switch to SE and went to Apple Store to have a look on it and guess what, there was dust on the SE lenses right in the store! Well, it's time to switch anyway, so maybe putting some plugs on headphone and lightning jacks would help. Buying Apple Care warranty is actually a good idea for this case, because you can get a new phone every 3-4 months so you don't need to worry about your battery health.
eksemplar 8y ago
You know the pixel 2 doesn’t have a headphone jack either, right? Apple may have been first movers, but everyone is following.
- dogweather 8y ago
  The iPhones have a lightning connector, but the Pixel 2's have USB-C. They look similar from a distance, so I hadn't thought about it. It was a pleasant surprise to see on the new phone.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > Apple may have been first movers, but everyone is following. Well, Google is following, but while Google is the software maker behind Android, they don't own the only, or even biggest, hardware business in that ecosystem. Samsung, OTOH, responded by keeping the jack and bundling higher quality wired headsets than the basic ones everyone used to bundle, but then Samsung also has removable storage on all their flagships, and, on one of flagship line, a stylus, so they pretty clearly aren't on board with the Apple “progress means dropping features” approach.
- Wildgoose 8y ago
  Yes, of course I know that - but most of the Android eco-system (which is huge) does have a headphone jack.
antihero 8y ago
Lack of Headphone jack is annoying as fuck, but if it's for in-car use buy a cheap £10 Bluetooth audio adapter. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-SoundSync-Bluetooth-handsfree-compatible/dp/B0177T3OEU https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-SoundSync-Bluetooth-handsfree... Anker do one now! For headphones you can use that adapter (fiddly) or a 3rd party dongle, or buy something like the ATH-M50x with BAL-M50 bluetooth adapter, which was my daily driver and I loved it (until they got nicked :( )
- lozf 8y ago
  Does Bluetooth Audio sync with Video playback properly now? I recall it being disconcertingly laggy a few years ago.
- Wildgoose 8y ago
  Just tried checking that out, but apparently it is "Currently Unavailable". Thanks for the recommendation though. But in any event, it is just something else needing charging, and it isn't only in the car. The headphone jack costs pennies and is universal. Scrapping it in order to encourage people to buy your Airpods is not simply not good enough - especially for those of us who simply can't wear in-ear buds.
  - wilsonnb 8y ago
    That wasn't the only reason they scrapped it. There is a good argument to be made that the 3.5mm was a redundant port because lightning/USB C are both capable of sending audio (with the assistance of an adapter until lightning/USB C headphones are more common).

andreif 8y ago

I own iPhone 5, which is not getting iOS updates anymore. Still works ok though, but the main issue I have with that design is it gets dust on the camera lenses inside the phone case (I don't use extra case). I have replaced it twice in the Apple Store because of the dust, but the last time my 3-month warranty expired before I got sufficient amount of it. Then I bought a repair kit to clean it but managed to crack the glass opening the case, not much but annoying. And in a few weeks there was dust on the lenses again. So I decided to switch to SE and went to Apple Store to have a look on it and guess what, there was dust on the SE lenses right in the store! Well, it's time to switch anyway, so maybe putting some plugs on headphone and lightning jacks would help. Buying Apple Care warranty is actually a good idea for this case, because you can get a new phone every 3-4 months so you don't need to worry about your battery health.

eksemplar 8y ago

You know the pixel 2 doesn’t have a headphone jack either, right? Apple may have been first movers, but everyone is following.

dogweather 8y ago
The iPhones have a lightning connector, but the Pixel 2's have USB-C. They look similar from a distance, so I hadn't thought about it. It was a pleasant surprise to see on the new phone.
dragonwriter 8y ago
> Apple may have been first movers, but everyone is following. Well, Google is following, but while Google is the software maker behind Android, they don't own the only, or even biggest, hardware business in that ecosystem. Samsung, OTOH, responded by keeping the jack and bundling higher quality wired headsets than the basic ones everyone used to bundle, but then Samsung also has removable storage on all their flagships, and, on one of flagship line, a stylus, so they pretty clearly aren't on board with the Apple “progress means dropping features” approach.
Wildgoose 8y ago
Yes, of course I know that - but most of the Android eco-system (which is huge) does have a headphone jack.

antihero 8y ago

Lack of Headphone jack is annoying as fuck, but if it's for in-car use buy a cheap £10 Bluetooth audio adapter. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-SoundSync-Bluetooth-handsfree-compatible/dp/B0177T3OEU https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-SoundSync-Bluetooth-handsfree... Anker do one now! For headphones you can use that adapter (fiddly) or a 3rd party dongle, or buy something like the ATH-M50x with BAL-M50 bluetooth adapter, which was my daily driver and I loved it (until they got nicked :( )

lozf 8y ago
Does Bluetooth Audio sync with Video playback properly now? I recall it being disconcertingly laggy a few years ago.
Wildgoose 8y ago
Just tried checking that out, but apparently it is "Currently Unavailable". Thanks for the recommendation though. But in any event, it is just something else needing charging, and it isn't only in the car. The headphone jack costs pennies and is universal. Scrapping it in order to encourage people to buy your Airpods is not simply not good enough - especially for those of us who simply can't wear in-ear buds.
- wilsonnb 8y ago
  That wasn't the only reason they scrapped it. There is a good argument to be made that the 3.5mm was a redundant port because lightning/USB C are both capable of sending audio (with the assistance of an adapter until lightning/USB C headphones are more common).