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I think sometimes it's a grass-is-greener situation. I had an iPhone bug where the camera/gallery would just crash on startup or basically anytime I had to do

I think sometimes it's a grass-is-greener situation. I had an iPhone bug where the camera/gallery would just crash on startup or basically anytime I had to do anything camera related. I eventually fixed it (after months of trying) by connecting to a PC with a 3rd party app, navigating the file system, and deleting a bunch of thumbnail cache files. I had plenty of problems answering phone calls on my iPhone -- it would be glitchy and unresponsive and I'd miss calls. Even more annoying about the iPhone is the always growing "Other" space on the phone. I was constantly short on disk space with no way of knowing what the cause was or how to clean it up. The bluetooth stack would crash every week disconnecting all my bluetooth devices temporarily. Very annoying when you have a smartwatch. My wife's iPhone screen doesn't turn off after she uses Siri sometimes -- it'll just say on all night long. The entire iPhone 6 (non-S) line was total garbage. Tons of people bought these and had nothing but problems. My point isn't so much to rag on iPhones -- they're actually really solid devices -- and I highly recommend them to non-technical users pretty much exclusively. They are hands down better than the vast majority of Android devices. But I switched from iPhone to Android on this last cycle and couldn't be happier -- this article covers much of what's good about it. But I love the flexibility and a lot of little touches that iOS devices don't have. And I think all devices have different problems. My Android phone is not glitch free either.

cm2187 9y ago
I have beefs with my iPhone and iPad but not those. 1. Nagging for Apple paid services 2. Gestures changing every month and becoming increasingly complicated with small variations doing different things, inconsistent experience between iPad and iPhone 3. Audio jack 4. Anything that involves editing is a catastrophe. Selecting an element of a table on a web page or trying to copy the text of a link (not the url) is nearly impossible. 5. Auto correct introducing more errors than it corrects. 6. iTunes on Windows which is still the only way to sync my music to the iPhone is just completely broken. Which is why I am tempted to move. I can see some candidates for an iPhone replacement but the iPad Pro 10.5 doesn’t seem to have any competitor (large-ish screen with high refresh rate).
- wvenable 9y ago
  I was specifically replying to the idea that iPhone are glitch free rather than merely what's wrong with the fundamental design of iOS. That's an entirely different kind of post and after being an iPhone user for many many years I do have a long list of those too.
- hellofunk 9y ago
  > Gestures changing every month and becoming increasingly complicated with small variations doing different things, inconsistent experience between iPad and iPhone Why would the phone's gesture controls change for you every month?
  - aldanor 9y ago
    He might have meant, e.g., that iPhone X has a wildly different set of gestures and shortcuts. Like, guided mode being triple-power instead of triple home, battery/volume/etc menu swiping from upper left corner instead of from below, apps being minimized vía swiping up instead of home button, etc, the list is long.
    - simonh 9y ago
      That's hardly going to be an iPhone only thing though. Any phone that does away with one or more hardware buttons, especially the home button, is going to have to present a new command interface. It's not like going into getting an X that this is going to be some unexpected surprise, and certainly not every month.
      - cm2187 9y ago
        Even the ipad changes gestures regularly.
      - addicted 9y ago
        Android phones got rid of hardware buttons in favor of SW ones. Making the entire interface gesture based isn’t the only option.
jb1991 9y ago
> Even more annoying about the iPhone is the always growing "Other" space on the phone. I was constantly short on disk space with no way of knowing what the cause was or how to clean it up. Hm? There is a very simple Storage page in the Settings that shows you exactly how much storage each app is taking up (including things the app is storing) and it is ordered by size so you can immediately see what's using up your space and delete it if necessary. I have an old 16GB iPhone that is still chugging along after 7 years and is my daily phone but it is a bit lacking of space and this Storage area is a simple fix.
- wvenable 9y ago
  iTunes will show you the space taken by apps, by music, by videos, by documents, and then "other". My other just got slightly bigger all the time. This isn't unique to my phone either.
- dmitriid 9y ago
  I find this area the single most useless display of information on an iPhone. Yes, you can see which app takes how much space. Then what? There is no way to control or clean up that space. You can hope that an app has a setting somewhere that let's you delete old data, and that's it. The biggest offender? Apple's own Photos app especially with iCloud and Photo Stream: there's exactly zero ways to make it give up space (unless you "want to delete photos from all connected devices")
  - gls2ro 9y ago
    On the General > Storage there are some options I have on my iOS (v 11.3): - Offload Unused Apps - Auto Delete Old Conversations Or I can manually offload apps one by one. I think you are referring to the iCloud Storage settings on the iPhone when talking about deleting photos from all connected devices. Probably the confusion is because they decided to put two storages: General > iPhone Storage (managing local storage) and Accounts > iCloud > iCloud Storage. The last one (iCloud Storage) manages the iCloud so if you delete something from iCloud it will delete it from all devices. edit: formatting
dogweather 9y ago
> the always growing "Other" space ... Lol, I had an "Other" folder for the growing set of iOS apps that I didn't use but couldn't delete.
- robin_reala 9y ago
  You can delete nearly all default iOS apps now as of iOS 10.
  - tzahola 9y ago
    “delete” Which actually means “hide the icon”.
    - krisdol 9y ago
      Kind of exactly like “disable” on an android unless you know the magic incantation for your device to get a third party OS installed. I deleted iTunes, music app, the games center, and other built-ins on my iPhone and I cannot re-open them again without reinstalling them, so this seems to do more than just remove the icon.
Yizahi 9y ago
On my iPhone 4S Wi-Fi dies after 2 years and was not working since. Phone performance had been crippled by iOS7. Power button almost broke after 2-3 years (no click). iPad also crippled by iOS7. Friend bought iPhone7 and 7plus, 7 had broken GPS out of the box, 7plus had power and volume down buttons break down after several weeks of usage. Not the ideal quality for sure, especially for that price tag.

cm2187 9y ago

I have beefs with my iPhone and iPad but not those. 1. Nagging for Apple paid services 2. Gestures changing every month and becoming increasingly complicated with small variations doing different things, inconsistent experience between iPad and iPhone 3. Audio jack 4. Anything that involves editing is a catastrophe. Selecting an element of a table on a web page or trying to copy the text of a link (not the url) is nearly impossible. 5. Auto correct introducing more errors than it corrects. 6. iTunes on Windows which is still the only way to sync my music to the iPhone is just completely broken. Which is why I am tempted to move. I can see some candidates for an iPhone replacement but the iPad Pro 10.5 doesn’t seem to have any competitor (large-ish screen with high refresh rate).

wvenable 9y ago
I was specifically replying to the idea that iPhone are glitch free rather than merely what's wrong with the fundamental design of iOS. That's an entirely different kind of post and after being an iPhone user for many many years I do have a long list of those too.
hellofunk 9y ago
> Gestures changing every month and becoming increasingly complicated with small variations doing different things, inconsistent experience between iPad and iPhone Why would the phone's gesture controls change for you every month?
- aldanor 9y ago
  He might have meant, e.g., that iPhone X has a wildly different set of gestures and shortcuts. Like, guided mode being triple-power instead of triple home, battery/volume/etc menu swiping from upper left corner instead of from below, apps being minimized vía swiping up instead of home button, etc, the list is long.
  - simonh 9y ago
    That's hardly going to be an iPhone only thing though. Any phone that does away with one or more hardware buttons, especially the home button, is going to have to present a new command interface. It's not like going into getting an X that this is going to be some unexpected surprise, and certainly not every month.
    - cm2187 9y ago
      Even the ipad changes gestures regularly.
    - addicted 9y ago
      Android phones got rid of hardware buttons in favor of SW ones. Making the entire interface gesture based isn’t the only option.

jb1991 9y ago

> Even more annoying about the iPhone is the always growing "Other" space on the phone. I was constantly short on disk space with no way of knowing what the cause was or how to clean it up. Hm? There is a very simple Storage page in the Settings that shows you exactly how much storage each app is taking up (including things the app is storing) and it is ordered by size so you can immediately see what's using up your space and delete it if necessary. I have an old 16GB iPhone that is still chugging along after 7 years and is my daily phone but it is a bit lacking of space and this Storage area is a simple fix.

wvenable 9y ago
iTunes will show you the space taken by apps, by music, by videos, by documents, and then "other". My other just got slightly bigger all the time. This isn't unique to my phone either.
dmitriid 9y ago
I find this area the single most useless display of information on an iPhone. Yes, you can see which app takes how much space. Then what? There is no way to control or clean up that space. You can hope that an app has a setting somewhere that let's you delete old data, and that's it. The biggest offender? Apple's own Photos app especially with iCloud and Photo Stream: there's exactly zero ways to make it give up space (unless you "want to delete photos from all connected devices")
- gls2ro 9y ago
  On the General > Storage there are some options I have on my iOS (v 11.3): - Offload Unused Apps - Auto Delete Old Conversations Or I can manually offload apps one by one. I think you are referring to the iCloud Storage settings on the iPhone when talking about deleting photos from all connected devices. Probably the confusion is because they decided to put two storages: General > iPhone Storage (managing local storage) and Accounts > iCloud > iCloud Storage. The last one (iCloud Storage) manages the iCloud so if you delete something from iCloud it will delete it from all devices. edit: formatting

dogweather 9y ago

> the always growing "Other" space ... Lol, I had an "Other" folder for the growing set of iOS apps that I didn't use but couldn't delete.

robin_reala 9y ago
You can delete nearly all default iOS apps now as of iOS 10.
- tzahola 9y ago
  “delete” Which actually means “hide the icon”.
  - krisdol 9y ago
    Kind of exactly like “disable” on an android unless you know the magic incantation for your device to get a third party OS installed. I deleted iTunes, music app, the games center, and other built-ins on my iPhone and I cannot re-open them again without reinstalling them, so this seems to do more than just remove the icon.

Yizahi 9y ago

On my iPhone 4S Wi-Fi dies after 2 years and was not working since. Phone performance had been crippled by iOS7. Power button almost broke after 2-3 years (no click). iPad also crippled by iOS7. Friend bought iPhone7 and 7plus, 7 had broken GPS out of the box, 7plus had power and volume down buttons break down after several weeks of usage. Not the ideal quality for sure, especially for that price tag.