>Those that could leave, left. The very people that could quicken the recovery of the fallen Midwestern towns are the same people who left. I'm from Toledo and

>Those that could leave, left. The very people that could quicken the recovery of the fallen Midwestern towns are the same people who left. I'm from Toledo and left for SF without looking back. I begged people in the SBA and business community to discuss tech with me and they didn't get it and I'd be shocked if they get it now. It was literally like "How can you make money with a website?" and this was just 8 years ago. Forget about using open source as they're all about MS and Oracle and corporate BS. Friends and family from that area are still totally shocked by things like pets and alcohol in the office, working from home, wearing t-shirts/jeans/tennis shoes, standing desks etc... It's really a shit mentality and it will persist for some time. It would take an obscene amount of money for me to move back to Toledo and almost everyone I love is there.