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New Ask HN thread: where are creators migrating to in lieu of YouTube? Vimeo? Twitch? Facebook? Metacafe or Dailymotion? There are also also already dozens of

by kawfey 8y ago

New Ask HN thread: where are creators migrating to in lieu of YouTube? Vimeo? Twitch? Facebook? Metacafe or Dailymotion? There are also also already dozens of dapps for streaming like dtube, lbry, viewly, lino, flixxo....(etc, just see https://www.google.com/search?q=decentralized+youtube https://www.google.com/search?q=decentralized+youtube), but I don't see any particular venue rising above the rest, as a lot of creators seem to choose "all of the above" as an answer, syndicating content across as many domains as possible.

JackCh 8y ago
AFAIK nothing. From what I've seen nearly everybody is remaining on youtube and is counting on using alternative monetization platforms such as patreon or selling merchandise. This gives them a security net if youtube decides to demonetize their videos (or simply if their youtube revenue drops off), but doesn't help them if youtube just starts deleting their videos or bans them from the platform. For instance Cody's Lab has a patreon page which doubtlessly helps with falling revenue from youtube, but it doesn't prevent youtube from giving him various community guideline strikes and locking his channel for videos that were considered acceptable years ago when they were uploaded but are now retroactively in violation. (Some specific 'genres' of content creators have alternative platforms. For instance gamers have twitch, and gun channels have full30. But I've not seen any alternative platform becoming popular that targets the full range of youtube content) (Incidentally the ubiquity of patreon makes me wonder if it too will shape up to be considered a harmful monopoly one day in the not so distant future.)
tanilama 8y ago
They talk about it, but they never leave. There is NO true alternative, that can make real money other than YouTube
21 8y ago
There is nowhere to go, no platform wants to host polarizing videos, which will alternatively be attacked by both the far left and the far right (mostly by the left today since tech companies employees mostly sympathize with them thus they get more favorable outcomes)
- mike00632 8y ago
  Looking into DTube, their about page says, "Because of the decentralized nature of IPFS and the STEEM blockchain, D.Tube is not able to censor videos, nor enforce guidelines. Only the users can censor it, through the power of their upvotes and downvotes."

by kawfey 8y ago

JackCh 8y ago

AFAIK nothing. From what I've seen nearly everybody is remaining on youtube and is counting on using alternative monetization platforms such as patreon or selling merchandise. This gives them a security net if youtube decides to demonetize their videos (or simply if their youtube revenue drops off), but doesn't help them if youtube just starts deleting their videos or bans them from the platform. For instance Cody's Lab has a patreon page which doubtlessly helps with falling revenue from youtube, but it doesn't prevent youtube from giving him various community guideline strikes and locking his channel for videos that were considered acceptable years ago when they were uploaded but are now retroactively in violation. (Some specific 'genres' of content creators have alternative platforms. For instance gamers have twitch, and gun channels have full30. But I've not seen any alternative platform becoming popular that targets the full range of youtube content) (Incidentally the ubiquity of patreon makes me wonder if it too will shape up to be considered a harmful monopoly one day in the not so distant future.)

tanilama 8y ago

They talk about it, but they never leave. There is NO true alternative, that can make real money other than YouTube

21 8y ago

There is nowhere to go, no platform wants to host polarizing videos, which will alternatively be attacked by both the far left and the far right (mostly by the left today since tech companies employees mostly sympathize with them thus they get more favorable outcomes)

mike00632 8y ago
Looking into DTube, their about page says, "Because of the decentralized nature of IPFS and the STEEM blockchain, D.Tube is not able to censor videos, nor enforce guidelines. Only the users can censor it, through the power of their upvotes and downvotes."