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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privately_owned_public_space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privately_owned_public_space YouTube essentially has a monopoly on vid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privately_owned_public_space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privately_owned_public_space YouTube essentially has a monopoly on video. Monopolies and other actors can be forced to comply with public space laws or to respect principles that normally apply only to the government.

foota 9y ago
Quoting from that article: These spaces are usually the product of a deal between cities and private real estate developers in which cities grant valuable zoning concessions and developers provide in return privately owned public spaces in or near their buildings.
akvadrako 9y ago
They don't have a monopoly - what an absurd idea. You can just publish videos on your own site.
- politician 9y ago
  Microsoft didn't abuse a monopoly on Windows in the 90s either, as you could just run a Linux distribution on your own machine. Right? Wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor.... Just because someone can run a small-time operation out of their garage, doesn't mean another company doesn't have a monopoly.
  - akvadrako 9y ago
    Ms had a monopoly because of market forces - but it's very easy to not use youtube.
    - politician 9y ago
      As a contributor or as a visitor?
tptacek 9y ago
How exactly does Youtube have a monopoly on video? What's the underlying scarcity they're exploiting?
- JoeAltmaier 9y ago
  Well, they are the de-facto curator of the bulk of our civilizations videos. Lets be honest, if you aren't on YouTube your chances of being searched/promoted/seen are greatly diminished. Maybe to nearly zero.
  - reitanqild 9y ago
    The only video content I can remember paying for has been on vimeo and udemy. But then again I'm old fashioned and like to read about stuff on some web site and then click to whatever video hosting site they use.
- politician 9y ago
  Ad placement via search results dominance.
Tushon 9y ago
That's so far from true. A "video hosting services" search away is >10 results, of which I recognize at least 3 as professional level excluding Youtube (Vimeo, Ooyala, and Wistia). They may not have the entire ecosystem around it, but you need to be a little specific if you want anything approaching a valid claim for "monopoly on video" _hosting_. If you're talking about traffic, that's a separate story and is only a sign they are generally providing a usable product.
- politician 9y ago
  When I search for video on search engines, I only see hits to YouTube and far far fewer hits to Vimeo. I never see hits for Ooyala and Wistia; honestly, you could be making those sites up for all I know.
  - s73v3r_ 9y ago
    And the other ones won't ever see more popularity if everyone keeps saying that YouTube is the only game in town, and doesn't start using the other sites.

foota 9y ago

Quoting from that article: These spaces are usually the product of a deal between cities and private real estate developers in which cities grant valuable zoning concessions and developers provide in return privately owned public spaces in or near their buildings.

akvadrako 9y ago

They don't have a monopoly - what an absurd idea. You can just publish videos on your own site.

politician 9y ago
Microsoft didn't abuse a monopoly on Windows in the 90s either, as you could just run a Linux distribution on your own machine. Right? Wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor.... Just because someone can run a small-time operation out of their garage, doesn't mean another company doesn't have a monopoly.
- akvadrako 9y ago
  Ms had a monopoly because of market forces - but it's very easy to not use youtube.
  - politician 9y ago
    As a contributor or as a visitor?

tptacek 9y ago

How exactly does Youtube have a monopoly on video? What's the underlying scarcity they're exploiting?

JoeAltmaier 9y ago
Well, they are the de-facto curator of the bulk of our civilizations videos. Lets be honest, if you aren't on YouTube your chances of being searched/promoted/seen are greatly diminished. Maybe to nearly zero.
- reitanqild 9y ago
  The only video content I can remember paying for has been on vimeo and udemy. But then again I'm old fashioned and like to read about stuff on some web site and then click to whatever video hosting site they use.
politician 9y ago
Ad placement via search results dominance.

Tushon 9y ago

That's so far from true. A "video hosting services" search away is >10 results, of which I recognize at least 3 as professional level excluding Youtube (Vimeo, Ooyala, and Wistia). They may not have the entire ecosystem around it, but you need to be a little specific if you want anything approaching a valid claim for "monopoly on video" _hosting_. If you're talking about traffic, that's a separate story and is only a sign they are generally providing a usable product.

politician 9y ago
When I search for video on search engines, I only see hits to YouTube and far far fewer hits to Vimeo. I never see hits for Ooyala and Wistia; honestly, you could be making those sites up for all I know.
- s73v3r_ 9y ago
  And the other ones won't ever see more popularity if everyone keeps saying that YouTube is the only game in town, and doesn't start using the other sites.