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The only cases I can find with a cursory Google search is where they have sued over seed saving, such as the story of Michael White. There are many farmers like

The only cases I can find with a cursory Google search is where they have sued over seed saving, such as the story of Michael White. There are many farmers like him that Monsanto has trampled. As for antibiotics, it is interesting you bring that up because it is a good example: people do not take their antibiotics as per manufacturer's guidelines, and Doctors over-prescribe antibiotics. In people, antibiotic resistance kills patients, but we can limit the spread. In farming, RR resistant weeds can spread miles away, or to places that aren't farms (thus we aren't looking for them there). What these both share is misuse and overuse of the product, and the manufacturer complicit in this by continuing to sell the product in ways that allow (or even encourage) the misuse and overuse. HN has certainly gotten stories to the front page about antibiotic resistance being an ongoing issue, and how some antibiotics have fallen to the wayside due to people not strictly following the label (where, if everyone had followed the label, we'd still be using it). I have also seen stories on HN's front page about how bacteria has done horizontal gene transfer to trade antibiotic resistances. This, too, is similar to RR weed's existence.

jakewins 9y ago
> they have sued over seed saving, such as the story of Michael White. Here is the case with Mr. White: https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCOURTS-alnd-5_03-cv-02804/pdf/USCOURTS-alnd-5_03-cv-02804-0.pdf https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCOURTS-alnd-5_03-cv-02804/pd... As you can see by reading it, it is not over seed saving for his own farm. It is over him intentionally growing 120 acres of roundup-ready crops for the purpose of producing his own RR seeds to sell commercially. "Yeah. I took advantage of it.", is a quote from Mr. White on page 7. The court found this in violation of the agreement he'd signed when he bought the seeds, and he lost the case. I think your example of Mr. White is illustrating exactly my point, that these cases have been misrepresented by anti-GMO groups to further their agenda. > What these both share is misuse and overuse of the product Yes. But this is not what you said or what I addressed. You said RR resistance was a "one way process". This is incorrect. I agree with the point that you are making here about misuse and manufacturers like Monsanto being complicit in that misuse.

jakewins 9y ago

> they have sued over seed saving, such as the story of Michael White. Here is the case with Mr. White: https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCOURTS-alnd-5_03-cv-02804/pdf/USCOURTS-alnd-5_03-cv-02804-0.pdf https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCOURTS-alnd-5_03-cv-02804/pd... As you can see by reading it, it is not over seed saving for his own farm. It is over him intentionally growing 120 acres of roundup-ready crops for the purpose of producing his own RR seeds to sell commercially. "Yeah. I took advantage of it.", is a quote from Mr. White on page 7. The court found this in violation of the agreement he'd signed when he bought the seeds, and he lost the case. I think your example of Mr. White is illustrating exactly my point, that these cases have been misrepresented by anti-GMO groups to further their agenda. > What these both share is misuse and overuse of the product Yes. But this is not what you said or what I addressed. You said RR resistance was a "one way process". This is incorrect. I agree with the point that you are making here about misuse and manufacturers like Monsanto being complicit in that misuse.