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I can't reach the site to read the post, but it seems that Caddy has been plagued with controvosy/drama as they tried to monetise their project - as past discus

I can't reach the site to read the post, but it seems that Caddy has been plagued with controvosy/drama as they tried to monetise their project - as past discussion here shows: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15237923 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15237923 It's a nice-looking project, and the integrated Let's Encrypt is great for non-sophisticated users, but the user-base must be suffering.

ezekg 9y ago
I'm personally happy Matt is charging for his work. More open-source devs should charge for commercial use a la Sidekiq, ngrok, and Caddy. Free OSS is great, but for these types of tools, so is paid OSS. There's a large pool of small, useful dev tools that could be making money instead of begging for it. And I'm glad Matt is a part of the much smaller group that makes money.
- stevekemp 9y ago
  I have no qualms about commercial services either, it's just a very different model here compared to nginx (which is about the closest comparison project I can think of).
  - tatersolid 9y ago
    Huh? Nginx also has a commercial license, Nginx Plus. https://www.nginx.com/products/nginx/ https://www.nginx.com/products/nginx/
    - stevekemp 9y ago
      I was suggesting the drama caused previously was due to the confusing way it was handled - pay to avoid a header, or to use "official" binaries. I'm well aware that nginx has a commercial side, which is why I mentioned it as a comparison.
pbreit 9y ago
I’m surprised it survived the commercial rollout. AFAICT, the commercial rollout required $300/year per instance for any and all commercial usage. It made it sound like you weren’t even allowed to use the open source version for commercial use (is that even possible?).
- tobya 9y ago
  The commercial licence for the prebuilt binaries is $50 pm for 2 instances. You can build yourself from source with no restrictions.
  - pbreit 9y ago
    OK, I see the requirement to pay is only for the binaries. It does seem like grabbing binaries from gocaddy.com is the preferred installation method vs. apt-get, etc for nginx. $300 is the annual rate for 1 instance.
- pfg 9y ago
  You're free to do anything with the source code that's permitted by the Apache license, including commercial usage. The commercial licensing only affects the binaries offered on the site.
- detaro 9y ago
  I'd agree that it wasn't very well-handled and being the biggest hassle for the wrong kind of people, but I believe it always clearly talked about their binaries only.

ezekg 9y ago

I'm personally happy Matt is charging for his work. More open-source devs should charge for commercial use a la Sidekiq, ngrok, and Caddy. Free OSS is great, but for these types of tools, so is paid OSS. There's a large pool of small, useful dev tools that could be making money instead of begging for it. And I'm glad Matt is a part of the much smaller group that makes money.

stevekemp 9y ago
I have no qualms about commercial services either, it's just a very different model here compared to nginx (which is about the closest comparison project I can think of).
- tatersolid 9y ago
  Huh? Nginx also has a commercial license, Nginx Plus. https://www.nginx.com/products/nginx/ https://www.nginx.com/products/nginx/
  - stevekemp 9y ago
    I was suggesting the drama caused previously was due to the confusing way it was handled - pay to avoid a header, or to use "official" binaries. I'm well aware that nginx has a commercial side, which is why I mentioned it as a comparison.

pbreit 9y ago

I’m surprised it survived the commercial rollout. AFAICT, the commercial rollout required $300/year per instance for any and all commercial usage. It made it sound like you weren’t even allowed to use the open source version for commercial use (is that even possible?).

tobya 9y ago
The commercial licence for the prebuilt binaries is $50 pm for 2 instances. You can build yourself from source with no restrictions.
- pbreit 9y ago
  OK, I see the requirement to pay is only for the binaries. It does seem like grabbing binaries from gocaddy.com is the preferred installation method vs. apt-get, etc for nginx. $300 is the annual rate for 1 instance.
pfg 9y ago
You're free to do anything with the source code that's permitted by the Apache license, including commercial usage. The commercial licensing only affects the binaries offered on the site.
detaro 9y ago
I'd agree that it wasn't very well-handled and being the biggest hassle for the wrong kind of people, but I believe it always clearly talked about their binaries only.