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We're passed the point of no return... because the ice has melted, permafrost is about to unleash a feedback loop that will warm us even more. I'm not sure if w

We're passed the point of no return... because the ice has melted, permafrost is about to unleash a feedback loop that will warm us even more. I'm not sure if we could remove all c02 from the atmosphere today, if that would have a net effect. -- We need to find a way to recool and rebuild the ice deposits we've lost at the north/south pole and refreeze all the permafrost -- that's the only real long-term solution... -- As for resources for something like this...no effing idea, it'll cost in the trillions... maybe Bezo's could get it done, or Elon ... If we could get space mining going we could mine the resources needed in space, and build it on the moon to make it easier to launch... We could also make it modular so we don't need to build it all at once but could build it in portions...

elorant 9y ago
Bottom line, we need a space elevator.
- PeterisP 9y ago
  It's not clear if a space elevator on earth is physically possible. On tiny scales, carbon bonds have sufficient strength/weight ratio so that the elevator might support it's own weight, but there's not that much margin left. As the macrostructure likely requires a multiple of weight, to account for the fact that a kilometers-long string can't be manufactured perfect to the single atom, and that damage can and will occur (e.g. any radiation), etc, etc - according to our current knowledge of physics it might as well be that a sufficiently strong macroscale material for an Earth-sized space elevator cannot exist. Moon or Mars is a different issue, though.
nsporillo 9y ago
The melting arctic ice sheets cause an influx in cold freshwater in the north atlantic which works to slow the rate of thermohaline circulation, which is responsible for bringing warm sea water (energy) to the poles which accelerates melting. It's a big unknown what exactly will happen, but it's possible that the damages of climate change are less than projected if the thermohaline circulation slows sufficiently to bail out the world until it can start reducing carbon emissions cost effectively.
- xapata 9y ago
  Or it could go the other way. No one is sure what happens if the major currents change. Northern Europe should probably get ready for a cold spell.

elorant 9y ago

Bottom line, we need a space elevator.

PeterisP 9y ago
It's not clear if a space elevator on earth is physically possible. On tiny scales, carbon bonds have sufficient strength/weight ratio so that the elevator might support it's own weight, but there's not that much margin left. As the macrostructure likely requires a multiple of weight, to account for the fact that a kilometers-long string can't be manufactured perfect to the single atom, and that damage can and will occur (e.g. any radiation), etc, etc - according to our current knowledge of physics it might as well be that a sufficiently strong macroscale material for an Earth-sized space elevator cannot exist. Moon or Mars is a different issue, though.

nsporillo 9y ago

The melting arctic ice sheets cause an influx in cold freshwater in the north atlantic which works to slow the rate of thermohaline circulation, which is responsible for bringing warm sea water (energy) to the poles which accelerates melting. It's a big unknown what exactly will happen, but it's possible that the damages of climate change are less than projected if the thermohaline circulation slows sufficiently to bail out the world until it can start reducing carbon emissions cost effectively.

xapata 9y ago
Or it could go the other way. No one is sure what happens if the major currents change. Northern Europe should probably get ready for a cold spell.