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I tried this for a while and I consider the experiment failed. No closed source means no Whatsapp, etc. Let's face reality, no-one is using XMPP ;) In the end

I tried this for a while and I consider the experiment failed. No closed source means no Whatsapp, etc. Let's face reality, no-one is using XMPP ;) In the end I started the policy "Prefer open-source software on Android", which works pretty well: * Note taking using orgzly * Tasks using opentasks (https://github.com/dmfs/opentasks https://github.com/dmfs/opentasks) * File Sync using Syncthing * Contacts, Calendar using davdroid & nextcloud * Firefox for browsing (this is a no-brainer)

jhasse 8y ago
Try Telegram instead of WhatsApp. It's a good drop-in replacement.
- heinrich5991 8y ago
  It doesn't encrypt end-to-end by default though.
  - jhasse 8y ago
    FOSS client is more important IMHO.
- mxschumacher 8y ago
  the trouble is to get your friends to use it. A vast portion of my daily communication runs over Whatsapp. A realistic migration would entail convincing 25+ people to switch apps. Network effects are powerful.
  - jhasse 8y ago
    Let them try Telegram's awesome desktop clients. It's quite a good argument for many as I hear lots of people complaining about WhatsApp's.
    - mxschumacher 8y ago
      I've been using the Whatsapp Web version since it was released and it has worked flawlessly
      - jhasse 8y ago
        Telegram Desktop works without your phone and also is a much leaner native desktop app (written in C++ with Qt).
  - Rotareti 8y ago
    I use a profile pic on WhatsApp that says "Please write me on Signal". This works very nicely in my circle, I get a lot of messages on Signal and it's getting better year after year. I think I'll add "Telegram" to the profile pic as well.
- unicornwizard 8y ago
  Even better, Signal.
  - jhasse 8y ago
    Buggier, less features, and even less people using it. Also not available on F-Droid IIRC. Has this changed?
    - Rotareti 8y ago
      > and even less people using it. Are you sure about this? In my circle most people seem to know/use WhatsApp and Signal.
      - jhasse 8y ago
        According to https://www.androidrank.org/listcategory?category=COMMUNICATION&hl=en https://www.androidrank.org/listcategory?category=COMMUNICAT... Telegram has ~100 million installs and Signal ~5 million.
Rotareti 8y ago
> I tried this for a while and I consider the experiment failed. Me too, that's why I'll go for a two phone solution. One main driver (FOSS) and another one for the crap ;)

jhasse 8y ago

Try Telegram instead of WhatsApp. It's a good drop-in replacement.

heinrich5991 8y ago
It doesn't encrypt end-to-end by default though.
- jhasse 8y ago
  FOSS client is more important IMHO.
mxschumacher 8y ago
the trouble is to get your friends to use it. A vast portion of my daily communication runs over Whatsapp. A realistic migration would entail convincing 25+ people to switch apps. Network effects are powerful.
- jhasse 8y ago
  Let them try Telegram's awesome desktop clients. It's quite a good argument for many as I hear lots of people complaining about WhatsApp's.
  - mxschumacher 8y ago
    I've been using the Whatsapp Web version since it was released and it has worked flawlessly
    - jhasse 8y ago
      Telegram Desktop works without your phone and also is a much leaner native desktop app (written in C++ with Qt).
- Rotareti 8y ago
  I use a profile pic on WhatsApp that says "Please write me on Signal". This works very nicely in my circle, I get a lot of messages on Signal and it's getting better year after year. I think I'll add "Telegram" to the profile pic as well.
unicornwizard 8y ago
Even better, Signal.
- jhasse 8y ago
  Buggier, less features, and even less people using it. Also not available on F-Droid IIRC. Has this changed?
  - Rotareti 8y ago
    > and even less people using it. Are you sure about this? In my circle most people seem to know/use WhatsApp and Signal.
    - jhasse 8y ago
      According to https://www.androidrank.org/listcategory?category=COMMUNICATION&hl=en https://www.androidrank.org/listcategory?category=COMMUNICAT... Telegram has ~100 million installs and Signal ~5 million.

Rotareti 8y ago

> I tried this for a while and I consider the experiment failed. Me too, that's why I'll go for a two phone solution. One main driver (FOSS) and another one for the crap ;)