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I have a little birth control pill reminder iOS app I made like 7 years ago that I still maintain in the app store. I don't make really any money off of it but
by andrewcarter 8y ago
I have a little birth control pill reminder iOS app I made like 7 years ago that I still maintain in the app store. I don't make really any money off of it but I keep up with it because it has a good amount of users. I don't THINK any of the GDPR stuff falls under anything the app does, but I sure as hell aren't taking any chances. I just removed it from any country that fell under "Europe" in the app store. I guess my point is I agree with what you're saying, and here's an example of a little hobby app that GDPR killed for EU countries. It's not worth my time, money, or risk to bother with it.
- actuator 8y agoEdit: I re-read it and it looks like it only applies if you are a business with physical presence in EU or if the user is accessing from EU GDPR applies to you if a EU citizen signs up from somewhere outside EU as well, but since you don't have any physical or online presence in EU I don't think they will do anything.
- dangrossman 8y agoGDPR applies only to people physically located in EU. Citizenship doesn't matter. Read Article 3, Territorial Scope.
- downandout 8y agoJust to clarify your point: it applies to users physically located in the EU. Fines assessed under it apply businesses that serve them anywhere in the world, which is what makes it so damned scary. The EU government has essentially declared itself the Emperor of the Internet.
- matthewmacleod 8y agoTransactions with EU users should be expected to comply with EU law. What’s unusual about that?
- downandout 8y agoI was just clarifying that the Internet’s new Dear Leader will be trying to reach outside its borders to enforce this law. It doesn’t just apply to companies in the EU.
- matthewmacleod 8y agoIf you provide services to users in the EU, then you’re “in the EU” and should be expected to meet any regulations. Not complex.
- downandout 8y agoWhich is why many of us will be blocking EU users.
- matthewmacleod 8y agoAbsolutely baffling. Unless you’re doing something malicious, compliance is minimal. So I guess that’s good for users?
- downandout 8y agoPeople that say this have not actually read the law, talked to “experts” about how to comply, or attempted to comply themselves. I have, and you’re just flat wrong.
- matthewmacleod 8y agoI have read the law, read the guidance, been through the GDPR compliance process for a data-heavy product, have talked to lawyers about the same, and my partner has drafted GDPR policies for several large tech firms. I don’t know everything, but I’m reasonably well-informed. I’m confident that compliance is: - Straightforward for any non-tech firm; - More complex but not that hard for most tech firms that handle data; - Far more complex for large organisations than small ones; - Basically only a real problem for fly-by-night tech companies that want to operate by reselling personal data. I’m not sure what your motivations are it making it seem disproportionately burdensome to comply with, but I don’t think they’re good.
- stef25 8y agoHow would they have the jurisdiction to fine a one man company established say in Panama? What about companies like Alibaba?
- pkaye 8y agoWhat if the EU citizen is living a abroad?
- dangrossman 8y agoThe EU citizen living abroad doesn't get the benefit of this EU regulation, just like an American living in London can't assert US laws against the British pub he's drinking in.
- matthewmacleod 8y agoIt’s like a few minutes of work and you couldn’t be bothered. Baffling.
- flukus 8y agoAre you storing any user data? Sounds like it could all be stored client side and the GDPR is irrelevant to you.
- andrewcarter 8y agoI'm not storing any data other than a day of the year and wether a pill was taken. It has Google Analytics and a crash reporting tool in it, and I'm not sure how those play into the whole thing.
- flukus 8y agoI'm not familiar with iOS but is the crash reporting not part of the OS/store? If so that is there problem. > It has Google Analytics There's a real issue, you've been bundling spyware with your application for years.
- blub 8y agoDon't worry, there are plenty other of similar apps. The Berlin-based clue comes to mind, they were offering period tracking, estimation and other features. One day you get a full-screen pop-up saying that they changed their privacy policy and they share your intimate data with so and so and there is no way to access the app and your data any more without accepting. Most apps nowadays aren't tools, they're sophisticated scams designed to steal people's information.
- glogla 8y agoYeah, and since this one was removed by the author, it was probably the case too.
- seszett 8y ago> I just removed it from any country that fell under "Europe" in the app store. I'm afraid that in your overreacting rush, you might have removed your app from European countries that are not within the European Union. Though if you are collecting more data on your users than you need (why would you need personal data at all for this app?), you might have been doing them a favour anyway.
- andrewcarter 8y agoI think you're right that I've likely selected countries that I didn't need to, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
- eisa01 8y agoGDPR will also apply in the EFTA countries (Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein), so you did right by doing Europe rather than EU at least