>> lots of militant atheists on this site I see, wielding that downvote button rather than engaging in substantive argument > If you want substantive argument

>> lots of militant atheists on this site I see, wielding that downvote button rather than engaging in substantive argument > If you want substantive argument you have to start off with a position that is ground in something that could be reasonable. Thanks for saving me the trouble of having to explain this. :P