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Hey listen, people that work at these companies also like and read hackernews. Maybe try to have a little compassion before you sound off with thoughtless comme

Hey listen, people that work at these companies also like and read hackernews. Maybe try to have a little compassion before you sound off with thoughtless comments like “it looks cartoonish compared to spacex.” People work pretty damn hard on these things that you piss on without a care.

albertgoeswoof 8y ago
Anyone who builds space rockets for a living is so far beyond the average hacker news reader that they really shouldn't care. I mean, this literally is rocket science.
- FPGAhacker 8y ago
  Not true at all. About the not caring. We are all trying to do the best we can, and we can all be discouraged by the cavalier words of others.
  - killjoywashere 8y ago
    I think he meant the Blue Origin crew shouldn't care. Yes, Hacker News commentors should care. Agreed.
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jessriedel 8y ago
More important than the feelings of employees is probably just the fact that HN doesn't need uninformed comments talking exclusively about how the music in the video makes the commenter feel, or which company they think is cooler.
- privateSFacct 8y ago
  The comments come in part because spacex mission profiles are more demanding. Falcon 9 thrust / payload capacity is 10-20Kg to mars level launch capability. New Shepherd is crossing the Karan line. Both totally cool, but very different. Just thrust alone is probably something like 23,000 vs 500 kN? Most of us are rooting for Blue Origin to succeed despite the fact they worked together with ULA to try and block spacex access to a pad in florida (total BS!). Seriously, build the orbital rocket then Nasa SHOULD give you space or make spacex provide space if needed - but the claims of need between 2013 and 2018 for the nasa pad seemed totally bogus.
- someguydave 8y ago
  uninformed comments seem to be the general rule on HN, unfortunately.
  - jessriedel 8y ago
    Do you know a better place on the internet? (Honest question.)
    - someguydave 8y ago
      No. Someone needs to invent something like HN but with the capability for 1.) cryptographic signatures for all content and 2.) the ability to create a completely custom blacklist/whitelist for the content and comments you see.
- bkor 8y ago
  > uninformed comments talking exclusively about how the music in the video makes the commenter feel If someone is talking exclusively about themselves, why is this considered uninformed?!?
  - jessriedel 8y ago
    I don't mean "uninformed about the comment's claim", I mean "uniformed about the topic of discussion"
jacquesm 8y ago
Sorry to hurt your feelings but Jeff Bezos is doing just about everything he can to get the comparison with SpaceX out there and nobody commenting on any of this intends to hurt the feelings of those working on either one of these projects. There have been plenty of harsh words on Tesla, SpaceX, Apple, Google and so on on HN and this is the first time that the 'compassion' angle gets played. How about: Blue Origin and SpaceX are as different as apples and oranges, the one is doing space tourism and may at some point become a player, the other is serving up a sizeable fraction of the worlds launch capacity at a pace that seems to be picking up every month. As soon as Blue Origin becomes Blue Orbitals a comparison would make sense.
- saagarjha 8y ago
  > There have been plenty of harsh words on Tesla, SpaceX, Apple, Google and so on on HN and this is the first time that the 'compassion' angle gets played. Then again, HackerNews does have the stereotype of criticizing things in ways that show a fundamental misunderstanding of the topic being discussed…
  - greglindahl 8y ago
    This time, the difference between suborbital and orbital is a big deal. You'll note that press coverage of BO uses 'suborbital' to describe these flights, while BO's marketing keeps talking about 'space'.
    - jacquesm 8y ago
      They can credibly claim 'space' because of the altitude. I really hope they will stay on schedule to do something more serious than this, I can't wait until there are two private sector parties with orbital launch capability and reusability at their core.
      - greglindahl 8y ago
        Claiming 'space' and not saying suborbital is why people are criticizing them.
wybiral 8y ago
Plus competition is good. The last thing we want is for one US company to basically have a monopoly on commercial space. Otherwise we'd probably all still be using Internet Explorer.
- greglindahl 8y ago
  Platitudes are important, elsewise we'd have far fewer comments on HN! There's no chance that anyone can monopolize the launch market because of the way it's structured, with lots of governments wanting independent access to space. What you want is at least 2 low-cost providers.
pavs 8y ago
Seriously? Is "Looks a bit cartoonish compared to falcon9" is really such a horrible thing to say? Even by HN standard (which I have been visiting quite regularly for over 10 years), this is really tame.
SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
That's literally one troll comment, the rest seem to be technical discussion, speculation about the future of space travel, and people asking about metric units. Why not reply to the comment in question?

albertgoeswoof 8y ago

Anyone who builds space rockets for a living is so far beyond the average hacker news reader that they really shouldn't care. I mean, this literally is rocket science.

FPGAhacker 8y ago
Not true at all. About the not caring. We are all trying to do the best we can, and we can all be discouraged by the cavalier words of others.
- killjoywashere 8y ago
  I think he meant the Blue Origin crew shouldn't care. Yes, Hacker News commentors should care. Agreed.
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jessriedel 8y ago

More important than the feelings of employees is probably just the fact that HN doesn't need uninformed comments talking exclusively about how the music in the video makes the commenter feel, or which company they think is cooler.

privateSFacct 8y ago
The comments come in part because spacex mission profiles are more demanding. Falcon 9 thrust / payload capacity is 10-20Kg to mars level launch capability. New Shepherd is crossing the Karan line. Both totally cool, but very different. Just thrust alone is probably something like 23,000 vs 500 kN? Most of us are rooting for Blue Origin to succeed despite the fact they worked together with ULA to try and block spacex access to a pad in florida (total BS!). Seriously, build the orbital rocket then Nasa SHOULD give you space or make spacex provide space if needed - but the claims of need between 2013 and 2018 for the nasa pad seemed totally bogus.
someguydave 8y ago
uninformed comments seem to be the general rule on HN, unfortunately.
- jessriedel 8y ago
  Do you know a better place on the internet? (Honest question.)
  - someguydave 8y ago
    No. Someone needs to invent something like HN but with the capability for 1.) cryptographic signatures for all content and 2.) the ability to create a completely custom blacklist/whitelist for the content and comments you see.
bkor 8y ago
> uninformed comments talking exclusively about how the music in the video makes the commenter feel If someone is talking exclusively about themselves, why is this considered uninformed?!?
- jessriedel 8y ago
  I don't mean "uninformed about the comment's claim", I mean "uniformed about the topic of discussion"

jacquesm 8y ago

Sorry to hurt your feelings but Jeff Bezos is doing just about everything he can to get the comparison with SpaceX out there and nobody commenting on any of this intends to hurt the feelings of those working on either one of these projects. There have been plenty of harsh words on Tesla, SpaceX, Apple, Google and so on on HN and this is the first time that the 'compassion' angle gets played. How about: Blue Origin and SpaceX are as different as apples and oranges, the one is doing space tourism and may at some point become a player, the other is serving up a sizeable fraction of the worlds launch capacity at a pace that seems to be picking up every month. As soon as Blue Origin becomes Blue Orbitals a comparison would make sense.

saagarjha 8y ago
> There have been plenty of harsh words on Tesla, SpaceX, Apple, Google and so on on HN and this is the first time that the 'compassion' angle gets played. Then again, HackerNews does have the stereotype of criticizing things in ways that show a fundamental misunderstanding of the topic being discussed…
- greglindahl 8y ago
  This time, the difference between suborbital and orbital is a big deal. You'll note that press coverage of BO uses 'suborbital' to describe these flights, while BO's marketing keeps talking about 'space'.
  - jacquesm 8y ago
    They can credibly claim 'space' because of the altitude. I really hope they will stay on schedule to do something more serious than this, I can't wait until there are two private sector parties with orbital launch capability and reusability at their core.
    - greglindahl 8y ago
      Claiming 'space' and not saying suborbital is why people are criticizing them.

wybiral 8y ago

Plus competition is good. The last thing we want is for one US company to basically have a monopoly on commercial space. Otherwise we'd probably all still be using Internet Explorer.

greglindahl 8y ago
Platitudes are important, elsewise we'd have far fewer comments on HN! There's no chance that anyone can monopolize the launch market because of the way it's structured, with lots of governments wanting independent access to space. What you want is at least 2 low-cost providers.

pavs 8y ago

Seriously? Is "Looks a bit cartoonish compared to falcon9" is really such a horrible thing to say? Even by HN standard (which I have been visiting quite regularly for over 10 years), this is really tame.

SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago

That's literally one troll comment, the rest seem to be technical discussion, speculation about the future of space travel, and people asking about metric units. Why not reply to the comment in question?