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I do not see how censorship at the CA level is worse than the ISP/ DNS level. We should not discourage people from using TLS because it allows for one of many o

I do not see how censorship at the CA level is worse than the ISP/ DNS level. We should not discourage people from using TLS because it allows for one of many other methods to censor. SEC takedowns have happened for years without relying on TLS.

Xylakant 8y ago
ISP/DNS-takedowns affect only customers of a single provider. Compelling every US provider is tedious and would still not affect people in other jurisdictions. CA-levy takedowns affect everyone.
- mikeash 8y ago
  A takedown against the hosting ISP would affect everyone, and DNS takedowns can involve changing the authoritative record.
  - Xylakant 8y ago
    The site can still move to a different jurisdiction and mirrors would still work. As evidenced by various takedown attempts against Sci-Hib.
    - mikeash 8y ago
      A site can move to a different CA and mirrors would still work.
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