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> This includes making commercial copyright violation a criminal, rather than civil, offence. It also includes things like making circumvention of technical pro

by zeusk 9y ago

> This includes making commercial copyright violation a criminal, rather than civil, offence. It also includes things like making circumvention of technical protection measure illegal. > It's wide ranging, it removes freedoms, it causes economic harm. And how exactly is that? The government didn't go after him because he was distributing pirated media or software to his friends but he set up a manufacturing unit, deceived customs to profit off the operations. Not to "recycle and reduce waste", not to help you or me.

DanBC 9y ago
You want to carrier-unlock your phone? Might be illegal where you are. You want to back-up DVD or bluray discs? Might be illegal where you are. You want to format shift CD to MP3? Might be illegal where you are. You bought thousands of CDs, and want to pay a service to format shift them to MP3? Probably illegal. etc etc etc.
- zeusk 9y ago
  For most jurisdictions, an act is "criminal" if you have mens rea (malicious intent) and actus reus (malicious act). You never see someone getting locked up or fined for copying discs for personal use. All of the cases that I'm aware of involved distribution and profiting. The measures were intended to deter those profiting off the work of others like in this case. Although, I agree that the legal approach sets a bad precedent and unfortunate collateral damage to people who genuinely buy something and face the same deterrence when they really don't have any malicious intent.
  - DanBC 9y ago
    > You never see someone getting locked up or fined for copying discs for personal use. All of the cases that I'm aware of involved distribution and profiting. Because in most places there's a distinction between copyright infringement done as part of trade and copyright infringement for personal use - which is what I said in parent post.

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> This includes making commercial copyright violation a criminal, rather than civil, offence. It also includes things like making circumvention of technical pro

by zeusk 9y ago

DanBC 9y ago
You want to carrier-unlock your phone? Might be illegal where you are. You want to back-up DVD or bluray discs? Might be illegal where you are. You want to format shift CD to MP3? Might be illegal where you are. You bought thousands of CDs, and want to pay a service to format shift them to MP3? Probably illegal. etc etc etc.
- zeusk 9y ago
  For most jurisdictions, an act is "criminal" if you have mens rea (malicious intent) and actus reus (malicious act). You never see someone getting locked up or fined for copying discs for personal use. All of the cases that I'm aware of involved distribution and profiting. The measures were intended to deter those profiting off the work of others like in this case. Although, I agree that the legal approach sets a bad precedent and unfortunate collateral damage to people who genuinely buy something and face the same deterrence when they really don't have any malicious intent.
  - DanBC 9y ago
    > You never see someone getting locked up or fined for copying discs for personal use. All of the cases that I'm aware of involved distribution and profiting. Because in most places there's a distinction between copyright infringement done as part of trade and copyright infringement for personal use - which is what I said in parent post.