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How do you know people are taking it at face value? ...The dozens of comments taking it at face value? I don't even see why it's relevant whether it's true or

How do you know people are taking it at face value? ...The dozens of comments taking it at face value? I don't even see why it's relevant whether it's true or not. If it isn’t true how is it relevant to anything?

icebraining 8y ago
...The dozens of comments taking it at face value? Just because you're discussing it seriously doesn't mean you take it at face value. Just look at discussions about fictional works, particularly SF. If it isn’t true how is it relevant to anything? It's just food for thought and discussion. Is it relevant whether Schrödinger actually put a cat in a box?
- cfadvan 8y ago
  Science fiction is presented as fiction, people discuss it as fiction. The comments here are very much a different story, so please take the time to read them.
  - reifnir 8y ago
    There is value in discussing fiction as though it was true. A thought experiment never hurt anybody.
    - cfadvan 8y ago
      Sure, but that clearly isn’t what’s actually happening here. Let’s not compare a circle jerk with a thought experiment.
- ebbv 8y ago
  This is the lamest argument I've seen in a while. It's clearly being presented as a true story by the original source. If it's not true it's not food for any kind of thought it's just a really badly written and stupid short story. Stop trying to justify lying.
  - icebraining 8y ago
    I sincerely don't get that position. We've been presented with a story; whether that story actually happened in unknowable. So how can it possibly affect the story's quality as food for thought? I'm feeling like Brian: https://youtu.be/9czBBKof7Yo?t=1m30s https://youtu.be/9czBBKof7Yo?t=1m30s
    - ebbv 8y ago
      How can it possibly have any value whatsoever if it's not real? If it's real you can wonder ok what motivated actual people to behave in this way, what actually happened? If it is made up (which it almost certainly is because it's so far fetched and ridiculous) then it has zero value. There's nothing worth thinking about here or discussing if it didn't actually happen. Like I said it's just a really poorly written short story. You don't discuss literature the same way you discuss journalism. I can't believe you don't already know that?

icebraining 8y ago

...The dozens of comments taking it at face value? Just because you're discussing it seriously doesn't mean you take it at face value. Just look at discussions about fictional works, particularly SF. If it isn’t true how is it relevant to anything? It's just food for thought and discussion. Is it relevant whether Schrödinger actually put a cat in a box?

cfadvan 8y ago
Science fiction is presented as fiction, people discuss it as fiction. The comments here are very much a different story, so please take the time to read them.
- reifnir 8y ago
  There is value in discussing fiction as though it was true. A thought experiment never hurt anybody.
  - cfadvan 8y ago
    Sure, but that clearly isn’t what’s actually happening here. Let’s not compare a circle jerk with a thought experiment.
ebbv 8y ago
This is the lamest argument I've seen in a while. It's clearly being presented as a true story by the original source. If it's not true it's not food for any kind of thought it's just a really badly written and stupid short story. Stop trying to justify lying.
- icebraining 8y ago
  I sincerely don't get that position. We've been presented with a story; whether that story actually happened in unknowable. So how can it possibly affect the story's quality as food for thought? I'm feeling like Brian: https://youtu.be/9czBBKof7Yo?t=1m30s https://youtu.be/9czBBKof7Yo?t=1m30s
  - ebbv 8y ago
    How can it possibly have any value whatsoever if it's not real? If it's real you can wonder ok what motivated actual people to behave in this way, what actually happened? If it is made up (which it almost certainly is because it's so far fetched and ridiculous) then it has zero value. There's nothing worth thinking about here or discussing if it didn't actually happen. Like I said it's just a really poorly written short story. You don't discuss literature the same way you discuss journalism. I can't believe you don't already know that?