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For contrast, here's Sandy Munro on the Autoline Network show talking about his teardown of the BMW i3: https://youtu.be/uDr4L6BzpP8 https://youtu.be/uDr4L6Bzp

For contrast, here's Sandy Munro on the Autoline Network show talking about his teardown of the BMW i3: https://youtu.be/uDr4L6BzpP8 https://youtu.be/uDr4L6BzpP8

cowsandmilk 8y ago
And here's him discussing the Model 3 teardown on Autoline (don't see a link to this in the article) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpCrkO1x-Qo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpCrkO1x-Qo
- Nokinside 8y ago
  He is really praising the batteries and electronics as revolutionary. "Other automakers ignore Tesla's electronic at their peril, but Tesla ignored traditional car manufacturing so they are in peril." At one point Munro says that had Tesla outsourced the manufacture and design of of the car to a company like Magna they would have hit every target and even Toyota would be crapping their pants now. If the traditional mechanical parts of the car would have been even decent, Tesla would have mopped the floor with everybody.
  - alasdair_ 8y ago
    >At one point Munro says that had Tesla outsourced the manufacture and design of of the car to a company like Magna they would have hit every target and even Toyota would be crapping their pants now. This would lead to hitting short-term targets at the expense of never really learning how to perform such tasks well in-house. Being able to design and manufacture cars seems pretty important stuff for a car maker to know how to do.
    - Nokinside 8y ago
      They are now risking with running out of money and bankruptcy. It would have been better idea to make money from outsourced Model 3 and continue R&D.
      - mlindner 8y ago
        You make the assumption that people won't give them more money.
        Nokinside 8y ago
        Their debt is already rated junk. Any new debt comes with huge interest rate. Tesla's whole future is tied to Model 3 sales. They don't have another change if it fails.
  - justin66 8y ago
    > He is really praising the batteries and electronics as revolutionary. His opinion on the suspension design was interesting as well. He was so enthusiastic about it that he said the designer could do an F1 car, but in another part of the interview he mentioned that it was a questionable design for a car that was meant to hit a $37k price point.
- justin66 8y ago
  Anyone with even a passing interest in this kind of engineering owes it to themselves to watch these videos. It's just utterly fascinating. At least one of his interviews with Autoline talked about the business of costing and reverse engineering, which is almost as interesting as the pure engineering. He has a sense of humor about the controversy Tesla stuff inevitably engenders online. Craig Cole (on measured gaps and mechanical tolerances): i3 was the best. Where does the Model 3 fall on that scale? Way at the bottom, is it somewhere in the middle... can you share that? Sandy Munro: Now, I'm pretty sure there's gonna be Tesla fans here so I really don't know if I wanna say the truth, so, I will give you a nice lie. It's in the lower half.
jsnell 8y ago
I don't drive and don't care about cars in general, but I'm just riveted by this video.

For contrast, here's Sandy Munro on the Autoline Network show talking about his teardown of the BMW i3: https://youtu.be/uDr4L6BzpP8 https://youtu.be/uDr4L6BzpP8

cowsandmilk 8y ago

And here's him discussing the Model 3 teardown on Autoline (don't see a link to this in the article) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpCrkO1x-Qo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpCrkO1x-Qo

Nokinside 8y ago
He is really praising the batteries and electronics as revolutionary. "Other automakers ignore Tesla's electronic at their peril, but Tesla ignored traditional car manufacturing so they are in peril." At one point Munro says that had Tesla outsourced the manufacture and design of of the car to a company like Magna they would have hit every target and even Toyota would be crapping their pants now. If the traditional mechanical parts of the car would have been even decent, Tesla would have mopped the floor with everybody.
- alasdair_ 8y ago
  >At one point Munro says that had Tesla outsourced the manufacture and design of of the car to a company like Magna they would have hit every target and even Toyota would be crapping their pants now. This would lead to hitting short-term targets at the expense of never really learning how to perform such tasks well in-house. Being able to design and manufacture cars seems pretty important stuff for a car maker to know how to do.
  - Nokinside 8y ago
    They are now risking with running out of money and bankruptcy. It would have been better idea to make money from outsourced Model 3 and continue R&D.
    - mlindner 8y ago
      You make the assumption that people won't give them more money.
      - Nokinside 8y ago
        Their debt is already rated junk. Any new debt comes with huge interest rate. Tesla's whole future is tied to Model 3 sales. They don't have another change if it fails.
- justin66 8y ago
  > He is really praising the batteries and electronics as revolutionary. His opinion on the suspension design was interesting as well. He was so enthusiastic about it that he said the designer could do an F1 car, but in another part of the interview he mentioned that it was a questionable design for a car that was meant to hit a $37k price point.
justin66 8y ago
Anyone with even a passing interest in this kind of engineering owes it to themselves to watch these videos. It's just utterly fascinating. At least one of his interviews with Autoline talked about the business of costing and reverse engineering, which is almost as interesting as the pure engineering. He has a sense of humor about the controversy Tesla stuff inevitably engenders online. Craig Cole (on measured gaps and mechanical tolerances): i3 was the best. Where does the Model 3 fall on that scale? Way at the bottom, is it somewhere in the middle... can you share that? Sandy Munro: Now, I'm pretty sure there's gonna be Tesla fans here so I really don't know if I wanna say the truth, so, I will give you a nice lie. It's in the lower half.

jsnell 8y ago

I don't drive and don't care about cars in general, but I'm just riveted by this video.