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Its not actionable either I think. Or What would you have done? Voted differently? Started an argument on reddit or here? Write an app? Whats the impact of that

Its not actionable either I think. Or What would you have done? Voted differently? Started an argument on reddit or here? Write an app? Whats the impact of that.

seer 8y ago
Well you could plant more flowers in your garden, or any other place like that you have access to. Its not much but if enough people do it, it can get people aware of this issue and help build political will. You know “grass roots” movement. I just heard this in a recent TED podcast that this is what some people were doing :)
- jeena 8y ago
  My mom did that a coupple of years ago, she took a big chunk of where formally only was gras which my dad cut often and has sown flowers there. Tons of insects came by, I have a coupple of pictures from back then on flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeena/albums/72157634192672920 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeena/albums/72157634192672920
- DelightOne 8y ago
  The sentiment is appreciated and I doubt its impact on anything is measurable at all.
  - MattBlissett 8y ago
    Don't just speculate! http://nature.com/articles/doi:10.1038/nature21709 http://nature.com/articles/doi:10.1038/nature21709 It had a measurable impact when planting "wild"flowers on 2% of the land alongside English fields, with a little more searching there's probably a study on gardens. (From the paper: "Here we show that the survival of family lineages from the summer worker to the spring queen stage in the following year increases significantly with the proportion of high-value foraging habitat, including spring floral resources, within 250–1,000 m of the natal colony.") However, the jury's out on "insect hotels": http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0122126 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal....
kaybe 8y ago
Build an insect hotel, plant some suitable flowers, take care of your immediate environment. The impact may be small, but it quickly visible to you and that is nice, at least.
- DelightOne 8y ago
  I'm a city man and have no suitable land so no to that. > but it quickly visible to you Definitely measurable in that it gives them more options which is probably better for them with proper care. Doesn't have impact on the main problem though.
  - gascan 8y ago
    You don't need much land at all to plant a bee garden. You actually don't even have to have land. We've got a little wildflower patch, maybe six square feet. Was covered in all kinds of bees & insects last summer.
sametmax 8y ago
You can vote with your wallet and support financially entities that care about it, choosing the products you buy. You can eat less meat, hence require less crop for your food and so less insecticides. You can teach your children to do so, and also to not consider insect as something to fear and systematically eliminate, but something to live with.
- ScottBurson 8y ago
  And you can eat organically-grown food as much as possible.
rsynnott 8y ago
Voting differently would be the obvious one. This sort of thing’s very much political.
- DelightOne 8y ago
  How does said party know why a specific voter voted for them, what their mandate is?
  - moonka 8y ago
    You have to let them know. Write and call your representatives.
    - DelightOne 8y ago
      My lobbying budget is quite small compared to others.
      - ergothus 8y ago
        (Regarding a generic "you":) If you've called your representatives, you gain my sympathy and concern. If you've assumed ten minutes a month isn't worth it, these arguments are not persuasive.
        DelightOne 8y ago
        And what impact does THAT have on anything exactly? I thought of a thing that might have at least a little. edit: I know I strode a little from the mandate part cause mandates may differ in relative importance for everyone.
        ergothus 8y ago
        Perhaps I'm not following your intention. I saw: Person A: voting helps You: How do they know why you're voting on this? Person B: You have to tell them You: But others spend more money and thus count for more Me: That's an excuse unless you've actually tried it (and if you have, yeah, that sucks) If I misread, my apologies - based on on your response it appears I have.
Tepix 8y ago
Of course you can do something. Buy organic. Support local beekeepers. I'm turning my lawn into a wildflower meadow.

Its not actionable either I think. Or What would you have done? Voted differently? Started an argument on reddit or here? Write an app? Whats the impact of that.

seer 8y ago

Well you could plant more flowers in your garden, or any other place like that you have access to. Its not much but if enough people do it, it can get people aware of this issue and help build political will. You know “grass roots” movement. I just heard this in a recent TED podcast that this is what some people were doing :)

jeena 8y ago
My mom did that a coupple of years ago, she took a big chunk of where formally only was gras which my dad cut often and has sown flowers there. Tons of insects came by, I have a coupple of pictures from back then on flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeena/albums/72157634192672920 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeena/albums/72157634192672920
DelightOne 8y ago
The sentiment is appreciated and I doubt its impact on anything is measurable at all.
- MattBlissett 8y ago
  Don't just speculate! http://nature.com/articles/doi:10.1038/nature21709 http://nature.com/articles/doi:10.1038/nature21709 It had a measurable impact when planting "wild"flowers on 2% of the land alongside English fields, with a little more searching there's probably a study on gardens. (From the paper: "Here we show that the survival of family lineages from the summer worker to the spring queen stage in the following year increases significantly with the proportion of high-value foraging habitat, including spring floral resources, within 250–1,000 m of the natal colony.") However, the jury's out on "insect hotels": http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0122126 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal....

kaybe 8y ago

Build an insect hotel, plant some suitable flowers, take care of your immediate environment. The impact may be small, but it quickly visible to you and that is nice, at least.

DelightOne 8y ago
I'm a city man and have no suitable land so no to that. > but it quickly visible to you Definitely measurable in that it gives them more options which is probably better for them with proper care. Doesn't have impact on the main problem though.
- gascan 8y ago
  You don't need much land at all to plant a bee garden. You actually don't even have to have land. We've got a little wildflower patch, maybe six square feet. Was covered in all kinds of bees & insects last summer.

sametmax 8y ago

You can vote with your wallet and support financially entities that care about it, choosing the products you buy. You can eat less meat, hence require less crop for your food and so less insecticides. You can teach your children to do so, and also to not consider insect as something to fear and systematically eliminate, but something to live with.

ScottBurson 8y ago
And you can eat organically-grown food as much as possible.

rsynnott 8y ago

Voting differently would be the obvious one. This sort of thing’s very much political.

DelightOne 8y ago
How does said party know why a specific voter voted for them, what their mandate is?
- moonka 8y ago
  You have to let them know. Write and call your representatives.
  - DelightOne 8y ago
    My lobbying budget is quite small compared to others.
    - ergothus 8y ago
      (Regarding a generic "you":) If you've called your representatives, you gain my sympathy and concern. If you've assumed ten minutes a month isn't worth it, these arguments are not persuasive.
      - DelightOne 8y ago
        And what impact does THAT have on anything exactly? I thought of a thing that might have at least a little. edit: I know I strode a little from the mandate part cause mandates may differ in relative importance for everyone.
        ergothus 8y ago
        Perhaps I'm not following your intention. I saw: Person A: voting helps You: How do they know why you're voting on this? Person B: You have to tell them You: But others spend more money and thus count for more Me: That's an excuse unless you've actually tried it (and if you have, yeah, that sucks) If I misread, my apologies - based on on your response it appears I have.

Tepix 8y ago

Of course you can do something. Buy organic. Support local beekeepers. I'm turning my lawn into a wildflower meadow.