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GIMP 2.10.0 Released

125 points by dikiaap 8y ago

cmurf 8y ago
It's on flathub for those using flatpak.
nkkollaw 8y ago
Had a really interesting "conversation" with /u/prokoudine a while ago (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16686941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16686941). His favorite reply to my criticism to GIMP's usability was "get a grip on yourself". Love GIMP's devs entitlement to think GIMP's users are worthless pieces of crap.
- bwat49 8y ago
  Reading the exchange, I really don't think the GIMP dev was the one that came off as entitled.
  - nkkollaw 8y ago
    I don't think so, but OK.
- StevePerkins 8y ago
  Skimming through that link, it sounds like the GIMP developer ran out patience with you, and became more snarky than necessary. However, it's hard to blame him. You come across as ridiculous in that thread, and now even more so digging it back up a month later in a completely separate thread.
  - nkkollaw 8y ago
    No, it was pissed of since the beginning because he didn't agree with mine and other user's comments.
- mort96 8y ago
  Wow, you really come across as an ass in that thread.
  - nkkollaw 8y ago
    Well, it seems you're nice enough for both of us... ;-)
- shawnfratis 8y ago
  I've said this before (kinda) and I'll say it again: if you're not happy with a feature in an open source piece of software then get involved with the development process: https://www.gimp.org/develop/ https://www.gimp.org/develop/ . If you don't know how and/or are not interested in learning then use another piece of software.
  - nkkollaw 8y ago
    Yes, unfortunately I have no idea about GTK and similar. It seems unlikely that I would be able to learn, too.
    - chappi42 8y ago
      In that case please try to be polite at least. Your answers (in the linked conversation) really don't feel ok. Why not, maybe, think again and, maybe, apologize?
      - nkkollaw 8y ago
        I don't think I was impolite, was I impolite?
  - bb88 8y ago
    > if you're not happy with a feature in an open source piece of software then get involved with the development process This is a red herring. There's no requirement to participate in a group in order to give criticism of it. People often lack the time, skills, or political will power to change the direction of a open source software project.
    - soperj 8y ago
      >People often lack the time, skills, or political will power to change the direction of a open source software project. And yet they still want to criticize people who provide free software.
- soperj 8y ago
  Hilarious that you're bringing this up again. Who cares if the feature wasn't developed for you, the whole program wasn't developed for you. In fact you've made it perfectly clear you don't even use gimp. You realize that they owe you absolutely nothing.
  - nkkollaw 8y ago
    Of course they don't, I never said they owe me anything.
- deleted 8y ago
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nategri 8y ago
Hooray! GIMP is probably one of the top 5 pieces of software I think of when I'm in an evangelistic mood about open source. There's just something so beautiful about providing such easy access to creative tools. I'm no power user, but I've found the GIMP to be satisfactory for 90% of my image editing requirements, and since I've spent most of my adult life as a rather destitute student, it's been an invaluable resource. Congrats to the GIMP team!
4ff618 8y ago
good news!
dddddaviddddd 8y ago
Where are macOS builds?
- rudedogg 8y ago
  I'd also like to try it out. The download page says: > There is no macOS package yet, sorry. Please check back later. I tried the homebrew method but it installed v2.8 :(
  - teamhappy 8y ago
    You can download the source code and follow the instructions in the INSTALL file.
  - jason_slack 8y ago
    I just tried `brew` and yes, still 2.8
    - teamhappy 8y ago
      AFAIK homebrew-cask doesn't compile anything, it just downloads the dmg and copies the app for you so that you don't have to mount the dmg and drag the app bundle to your applications folder yourself. They'll probably update their repository as soon as the GIMP devs release a 2.10 dmg (at which point you might as well download it yourself).
pgtan 8y ago
Wondering, why there is still no GaaS (GIMP as a Sevice) Scheme/REST/Cloud-Functional offer.
- trentlott 8y ago
  If you care, do it
dingdingdang 8y ago
Download area (https://www.gimp.org/downloads/ https://www.gimp.org/downloads/) lists both OSX and Windows builds as not available and in turn redirects Windows & OSX users to older builds pages, both of which are currently 404s. Be good to just go over these things in cursory sense before publicly announcing new release.
bb88 8y ago
Nothing against the GIMP here, but I gave up on the Gimp about 10 years ago now waiting for it to support color depths greater than 8. Gimp was a great program back in 1998-ish. But the lack of deep color depth support really hampered it.
- zerocrates 8y ago
  Perhaps 10 years too late for you, but high bit depth is finally here in 2.10.
  - bb88 8y ago
    For me and everyone else it seems given the popularity of photoshop.
    - soperj 8y ago
      It's a free product, it's amazing that it's got this far.
      - bb88 8y ago
        Cinepaint had 16bit depth back in 2000.
        Grue3 8y ago
        So why is it not as popular as Photoshop, or even GIMP?
        bb88 8y ago
        Actually Cinepaint was used for a quite a while in the movies where it served it's purpose rather well. There was a point in time where studios I believe were funding the development of it because commercial offerings at the time were poor. The list of movies is listed on the Cinepaint wikipedia page, and I'm not sure that's all of them. It seems like the last movie listed was back in 2003. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CinePaint https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CinePaint As to why it's not more popular? I'm guessing because studios switched over to commercial offering once Adobe and other software houses got their act together, and provided software with more features and support than Cinepaint. Photoshop seems to have had high bit depth editing for at least the last decade, and possibly longer.
lakechfoma 8y ago
This is update is incredible, it looks like a massive jump into modern relevancy. Excited to try it this weekend. One thing I might have to raise in the GIMP community is what's the deal with sliders on brush-like tools? Very cumbersome to use by default, and I don't know if there's any way to change their behavior. Anyone have thoughts here?
anonlastname 8y ago
Gimp has served me well. It has a lot of features for programmers who need to edit the input to programs. It will output images to ppm, allows you to combine layers with bitwise operations, and it can even export to a .c file with a const array of image data. It is such a precision tool and I love it.
ror6ax 8y ago
Good to them finally giving UX a serious thought, as well as using multicore and adding flatpak installation method. At least opensource affocinados stand some semblance of chance in PS/LR holywar.
MR4D 8y ago
Nice overview of some of the features is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zigo9gTzL8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zigo9gTzL8

125 points by dikiaap 8y ago

It's on flathub for those using flatpak.

Had a really interesting "conversation" with /u/prokoudine a while ago (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16686941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16686941). His favorite reply to my criticism to GIMP's usability was "get a grip on yourself". Love GIMP's devs entitlement to think GIMP's users are worthless pieces of crap.

bwat49 8y ago
Reading the exchange, I really don't think the GIMP dev was the one that came off as entitled.
- nkkollaw 8y ago
  I don't think so, but OK.
StevePerkins 8y ago
Skimming through that link, it sounds like the GIMP developer ran out patience with you, and became more snarky than necessary. However, it's hard to blame him. You come across as ridiculous in that thread, and now even more so digging it back up a month later in a completely separate thread.
- nkkollaw 8y ago
  No, it was pissed of since the beginning because he didn't agree with mine and other user's comments.
mort96 8y ago
Wow, you really come across as an ass in that thread.
- nkkollaw 8y ago
  Well, it seems you're nice enough for both of us... ;-)
shawnfratis 8y ago
I've said this before (kinda) and I'll say it again: if you're not happy with a feature in an open source piece of software then get involved with the development process: https://www.gimp.org/develop/ https://www.gimp.org/develop/ . If you don't know how and/or are not interested in learning then use another piece of software.
- nkkollaw 8y ago
  Yes, unfortunately I have no idea about GTK and similar. It seems unlikely that I would be able to learn, too.
  - chappi42 8y ago
    In that case please try to be polite at least. Your answers (in the linked conversation) really don't feel ok. Why not, maybe, think again and, maybe, apologize?
    - nkkollaw 8y ago
      I don't think I was impolite, was I impolite?
- bb88 8y ago
  > if you're not happy with a feature in an open source piece of software then get involved with the development process This is a red herring. There's no requirement to participate in a group in order to give criticism of it. People often lack the time, skills, or political will power to change the direction of a open source software project.
  - soperj 8y ago
    >People often lack the time, skills, or political will power to change the direction of a open source software project. And yet they still want to criticize people who provide free software.
soperj 8y ago
Hilarious that you're bringing this up again. Who cares if the feature wasn't developed for you, the whole program wasn't developed for you. In fact you've made it perfectly clear you don't even use gimp. You realize that they owe you absolutely nothing.
- nkkollaw 8y ago
  Of course they don't, I never said they owe me anything.
deleted 8y ago
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nategri 8y ago

Hooray! GIMP is probably one of the top 5 pieces of software I think of when I'm in an evangelistic mood about open source. There's just something so beautiful about providing such easy access to creative tools. I'm no power user, but I've found the GIMP to be satisfactory for 90% of my image editing requirements, and since I've spent most of my adult life as a rather destitute student, it's been an invaluable resource. Congrats to the GIMP team!

4ff618 8y ago

good news!

dddddaviddddd 8y ago

Where are macOS builds?

rudedogg 8y ago
I'd also like to try it out. The download page says: > There is no macOS package yet, sorry. Please check back later. I tried the homebrew method but it installed v2.8 :(
- teamhappy 8y ago
  You can download the source code and follow the instructions in the INSTALL file.
- jason_slack 8y ago
  I just tried `brew` and yes, still 2.8
  - teamhappy 8y ago
    AFAIK homebrew-cask doesn't compile anything, it just downloads the dmg and copies the app for you so that you don't have to mount the dmg and drag the app bundle to your applications folder yourself. They'll probably update their repository as soon as the GIMP devs release a 2.10 dmg (at which point you might as well download it yourself).

pgtan 8y ago

Wondering, why there is still no GaaS (GIMP as a Sevice) Scheme/REST/Cloud-Functional offer.

trentlott 8y ago
If you care, do it

dingdingdang 8y ago

Download area (https://www.gimp.org/downloads/ https://www.gimp.org/downloads/) lists both OSX and Windows builds as not available and in turn redirects Windows & OSX users to older builds pages, both of which are currently 404s. Be good to just go over these things in cursory sense before publicly announcing new release.

bb88 8y ago

Nothing against the GIMP here, but I gave up on the Gimp about 10 years ago now waiting for it to support color depths greater than 8. Gimp was a great program back in 1998-ish. But the lack of deep color depth support really hampered it.

zerocrates 8y ago
Perhaps 10 years too late for you, but high bit depth is finally here in 2.10.
- bb88 8y ago
  For me and everyone else it seems given the popularity of photoshop.
  - soperj 8y ago
    It's a free product, it's amazing that it's got this far.
    - bb88 8y ago
      Cinepaint had 16bit depth back in 2000.
      - Grue3 8y ago
        So why is it not as popular as Photoshop, or even GIMP?
        bb88 8y ago
        Actually Cinepaint was used for a quite a while in the movies where it served it's purpose rather well. There was a point in time where studios I believe were funding the development of it because commercial offerings at the time were poor. The list of movies is listed on the Cinepaint wikipedia page, and I'm not sure that's all of them. It seems like the last movie listed was back in 2003. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CinePaint https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CinePaint As to why it's not more popular? I'm guessing because studios switched over to commercial offering once Adobe and other software houses got their act together, and provided software with more features and support than Cinepaint. Photoshop seems to have had high bit depth editing for at least the last decade, and possibly longer.

lakechfoma 8y ago

This is update is incredible, it looks like a massive jump into modern relevancy. Excited to try it this weekend. One thing I might have to raise in the GIMP community is what's the deal with sliders on brush-like tools? Very cumbersome to use by default, and I don't know if there's any way to change their behavior. Anyone have thoughts here?

anonlastname 8y ago

Gimp has served me well. It has a lot of features for programmers who need to edit the input to programs. It will output images to ppm, allows you to combine layers with bitwise operations, and it can even export to a .c file with a const array of image data. It is such a precision tool and I love it.

ror6ax 8y ago

Good to them finally giving UX a serious thought, as well as using multicore and adding flatpak installation method. At least opensource affocinados stand some semblance of chance in PS/LR holywar.

MR4D 8y ago

Nice overview of some of the features is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zigo9gTzL8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zigo9gTzL8