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Ok, this is what I think should be the best behavior: Phase I Me: I deserve more $ because ... Boss: I can't because ... Me: Ok Phas

by antirez 16y ago

Ok, this is what I think should be the best behavior: Phase I Me: I deserve more $ because ... Boss: I can't because ... Me: Ok Phase II You look for a better job where you can get what you deserve, without telling your company about it. Phase III I found the job. Me: Sorry, I'm leaving, I found a job with the right $ Boss: Ok, we can match the offer Me: no way, I'm leaving.

edw519 16y ago
this is what I think should be the best behavior This is exactly what not to do. Don't ever let your employer know you're unhappy, disloyal, or "looking". This leaves you totally exposed, walking a tightrope without a safety net. You'll piss off your boss for no good reason and only reconfirm your current situation by not already having another offer. If you're so damn good, then why don't you have another offer? There's a big difference between what should work and what does work. On the job, you and your employer are teammates. When it comes to your renumeration, you are adversaries. Don't ever forget that.
jasonkester 16y ago
Minus the Phase II (never tell them you're planning to leave), I've done this a couple times with good success. It's healthy for both sides. You get a better job and a bit of self-satisfied pleasure during the "no, you lost me" speech. They get to understand why they lost a good worker, and the real costs associated with it. With luck, the team you left behind will have a better environment, since just maybe management will learn something.
- antirez 16y ago
  Yep sorry I was not clear, in phase II you are not supposed to tell you are looking for another job.
  - sushrutbidwai 16y ago
    People also tend to use interviewing to gauge what is current market price for talent they have. Specially when economic conditions start looking to change for better.

by antirez 16y ago

edw519 16y ago

this is what I think should be the best behavior This is exactly what not to do. Don't ever let your employer know you're unhappy, disloyal, or "looking". This leaves you totally exposed, walking a tightrope without a safety net. You'll piss off your boss for no good reason and only reconfirm your current situation by not already having another offer. If you're so damn good, then why don't you have another offer? There's a big difference between what should work and what does work. On the job, you and your employer are teammates. When it comes to your renumeration, you are adversaries. Don't ever forget that.

jasonkester 16y ago

Minus the Phase II (never tell them you're planning to leave), I've done this a couple times with good success. It's healthy for both sides. You get a better job and a bit of self-satisfied pleasure during the "no, you lost me" speech. They get to understand why they lost a good worker, and the real costs associated with it. With luck, the team you left behind will have a better environment, since just maybe management will learn something.

antirez 16y ago
Yep sorry I was not clear, in phase II you are not supposed to tell you are looking for another job.
- sushrutbidwai 16y ago
  People also tend to use interviewing to gauge what is current market price for talent they have. Specially when economic conditions start looking to change for better.